Sust 250 and T-400 cycle help

[JDP8]

As you can tell from the title I would like to run Sust and T-400, but I'm not sure how often would be best to inject for my weight...I plan on running a 12 week cycle, and would like to have some input on what you think wold be best...Thanks for your help.

Weight 170
20 Years old
Lifting for three years

[smokeyd]

why you wanna run two diff types of test that are basically the same?

[jc95605]

height? goals?

[JDP8]

There easily avaliable to me and I basically thought that the mini stack that 250 and 400 have would be the best for bulking...

[JDP8]

5' 10" gain as much weight as possible then cut up.

[T_Own]

thats like my size.. you should look at your diet and bulk more naturally imo. at 20, you still have years to improve easily on your own, and it doesn't seem like you know much about steroids now anyway. sust and t-400 are both just testosterone blends, combining them is pretty much the same as upping the dose of either one on its own

[MercyDog]

burning money twice

[one8nine]

burning money twice

ha ha
yes
you are better off taking neither


get some test e 250, 20ml-30ml of it
pct too

(assuming when they ask you your stats and you do, everyone here allows you to decide to put steroids in your body)

[JiGGaMaN]

Well, you probably could have saved money on the asskicking this gear is about to give you. Those are up there on my list of painful steroids. Heres the deal. Instead of answering bullshit questions like what are your goals (is that even relevant to the question hes asking?), answer me this, and ye shall be guided:

T-400, what compounds are in each?
Sustanon, what compounds are in each?
How many ml's of each do you have?

[BadBarbie]

Well, you probably could have saved money on the asskicking this gear is about to give you. Those are up there on my list of painful steroids. Heres the deal. Instead of answering bullshit questions like what are your goals (is that even relevant to the question hes asking?), answer me this, and ye shall be guided:

T-400, what compounds are in each?
Sustanon, what compounds are in each?
How many ml's of each do you have?

ahhh haha I always look forward to reading your posts. You brightened my day a little.

[one8nine]

Well, you probably could have saved money on the asskicking this gear is about to give you. Those are up there on my list of painful steroids. Heres the deal. Instead of answering bullshit questions like what are your goals (is that even relevant to the question hes asking?), answer me this, and ye shall be guided:

T-400, what compounds are in each?
Sustanon, what compounds are in each?
How many ml's of each do you have?

yes then we can tell him that his goals are obtainable naturally for an ego boost and power trip. tell him to train hard for 15 more years until he is 6'8" 265 3% bf, and when he has done 6000 hours of research, to do a test only cycle

[one8nine]

Sustanon 250 is an oil-based injectable containing four different testosterone compounds: testosterone propionate, 30 mg; testosterone phenylpropionate, 60 mg; testosterone isocaproate, 60mg; and testosterone decanoate, 100 mg. The mixture of the testosterones are time-released to provide an immediate effect while still remaining active in the body for up to a month. As with other testosterones, Sustanon is an androgenic steroid with a pronounced anabolic effect. Therefore, athletes commonly use Sustanon to put on mass and size while increasing strength.

there ya go jigga!!

[T_Own]

yes then we can tell him that his goals are obtainable naturally for an ego boost and power trip. tell him to train hard for 15 more years until he is 6'8" 265 3% bf, and when he has done 6000 hours of research, to do a test only cycle

what kinda diet do you suggest to help me grow 11 inches then?

[JiGGaMaN]

Might be a UGL brew though. Only reason im asking. I made the mistake of thinking T-400 would be use-able. Order some of the net, inject, K.O., test flu for 2 days solid. That doesnt mean its gonna happen to you original poster, but just a heads up.

[Big]

yes then we can tell him that his goals are obtainable naturally for an ego boost and power trip

do you really think the reason we tell people their goals are obtainable naturally if applicable is for an ego boost and a power trip? when the guys who are 6' and 150lbs want to cycle hoping to see 180lbs and we direct them to tweak their diet and obtain their goal naturally it's for an ego boost and a power trip? I agree with a lot of your posts, but I just couldn't agree more with this one. I've seen too many guys over the years with awful diets jump on cycle, gain a bit of weight, then after the cycle drop the weight as quickly as it came. if I tell someone that they should tweak their diet and training in an effort to approach their natural potential before they cycle it's in the interest of the poster and to help them achieve their long term goals, if you can't see my point then we can just agree to disagree.
off rant.

[JDP8]

Jigga

T400
150mg Test Cypionate
150mg Test Enanthate
150mg Test Decanoate

Sust 250
100mg Test Decanoate
60mg Test Isocaporate
60mg Test Phenylpropionate
30mg Test Propionate

20mL of both T-400 and Sust 250

[Big]

Jigga

T400
150mg Test Cypionate
150mg Test Enanthate
150mg Test Decanoate

how would that be T400? looks like 450 to me.

[one8nine]

do you really think the reason we tell people their goals are obtainable naturally if applicable is for an ego boost and a power trip? when the guys who are 6' and 150lbs want to cycle hoping to see 180lbs and we direct them to tweak their diet and obtain their goal naturally it's for an ego boost and a power trip? I agree with a lot of your posts, but I just couldn't agree more with this one. I've seen too many guys over the years with awful diets jump on cycle, gain a bit of weight, then after the cycle drop the weight as quickly as it came. if I tell someone that they should tweak their diet and training in an effort to approach their natural potential before they cycle it's in the interest of the poster and to help them achieve their long term goals, if you can't see my point then we can just agree to disagree.
off rant.

we mostly agree, i was just making a joke but you are 100% correct saying people can change their diets and workout to improve, but where i disagree with most threads is telling people to reach their goals naturally when aas can help on top of a good diet/workout
im just saying i think that 6' 150 pound guy wouldnt be hurting himself to get on a cycle, assuming he did get his diet and routene on point first, and not have to wait years to get 30 pounds up to 180 first
basically to my cycle requirements are good diet, good routene, age, bf%<12 and aas knowledge.
i hope that makes sense

[Big]

we mostly agree, i was just making a joke but you are 100% correct saying people can change their diets and workout to improve, but where i disagree with most threads is telling people to reach their goals naturally when aas can help on top of a good diet/workout
im just saying i think that 6' 150 pound guy wouldnt be hurting himself to get on a cycle, assuming he did get his diet and routene on point first, and not have to wait years to get 30 pounds up to 180 first
basically to my cycle requirements are good diet, good routene, age, bf%<12 and aas knowledge.
i hope that makes sense

ok, I took it wrong. I agree as usual.

[one8nine]

Jigga

T400
150mg Test Cypionate
150mg Test Enanthate
150mg Test Decanoate

Sust 250
100mg Test Decanoate
60mg Test Isocaporate
60mg Test Phenylpropionate
30mg Test Propionate

20mL of both T-400 and Sust 250

that t400 is a good one
sust sucks

t450??

[one8nine]

ok, I took it wrong. I agree as usual.

glad we are on the same page again

oh by the way i do think SOME people do just say it for the ego, but very few

[Big]

oh by the way i do think SOME people do just say it for the ego, but very few

actually that is why I say it, I just don't want my secret out.

to the original poster, T450 was far and away the most crippling gear I've used, I gave it away. I hope you don't have the same experience.

[one8nine]

okay guy
heres my advice
assuming you have a serious diet/serious routene ...
dont get the sust, if you already have then sell it to some poor sucker at the gym for 2x what you got it for
shoot your t400, 3/4ml 2x a week, so 1.5ml total per week 13 weeks
pct starts ~2 weeks after your last shot

now lets talk about your pct...
whas for pct??
(ps the answer is 40mg nolvadex, 50mg proviron, for 4-6 weeks just like you would do one8nine!!)

also, do me a fovor and read up on these:
letrozole
aromasin
arimidex

youll want to pick your favorite and get some incase you get side effects on cycle


oh and your t450/400 whatever will be killer alone, but if you get some sterile oild and mix 3/4 test with 1ml sterile oil to shoot, it will be painless
thanks big for reminding me to add this