Deca vs. Tren for bulking.

[Gears]

So there have been a ton of threads going around about how great tren it, and I was looking at planning out my next cycle of the winter (bulking). I was wondering if you guys thought tren or deca gave you better results? Even though its going to be a bulk, i`m going to try and keep off the fat if I can, so I was thinking about tren, but water weight dosen`t bother me. Either way both will be ran with Test and Masteron.

If you guys say Tren, should I run a short ester cycle or long ester?

[one8nine]

if you can handle the sides use tren

if you can handle ED injects do prop/masteron/tren a

[Big]

Personally I prefer tren, and you should always run a short ester for your first run with tren.

[Gears]

Tren it is, I suppose i`ll have to get used to pinning myself ED. I`ve ran tren before but it was either bunk or severly underdosed, so i`m switching up ULG`s.

[BG]

Deca is better for bulking, trens great for cutting imo.

[dece870717]

Tren! Nutrient partitioning effect(more food goes towards muscles/body), strongest AR binding steroid out there, highest anabolic and androgenic score out of all injectables. There is really nothing that can be better or put on more lean mass.

[BG]

Tren it is, I suppose i`ll have to get used to pinning myself ED. I`ve ran tren before but it was either bunk or severly underdosed, so i`m switching up ULG`s.

You want some results get Norma Decas.

[Gears]

You want some results get Norma Decas.

Right on, what differences did you have between the two?

Also, this may seem like a silly question, but do any of you ever have joint problems on tren from not holding any water?

[one8nine]

Right on, what differences did you have between the two?

Also, this may seem like a silly question, but do any of you ever have joint problems on tren from not holding any water?

tren makes you hold water it stimulates pgr

[BG]

tren makes you hold water it stimulates pgr

^^^^Yup, I get almost 4-5 lbs of water right away from tren, bloaded (moon face) also, plus always red as shit (giving boold helped)and gyno (progestorone related).

Im running Norma enathates and decas right now, and i gotta say their right up there with yellow tops.

Trens a real "dirty" compound, acne, sweating all the time and like I said, I feel I burn off everything I eat so I dont have a chance to bulk. Tren has it place, but I run Deca most of the time. Just my 2 cents

[BG]

you should always run a short ester for your first run with tren.

^^^I agree , it allows you to be able to lower you dosage immediately if you cant handle the sides .About week three when the enanthate ester fully stabilizes in my blood was when I had the worst sides, when I was uncontrollable.

[bmit]

I prefer deca for bulking due to the sides in my experience to be A LOT less than tren. That being said, tren is a superior muscle building compound. But if you don't mind the extra water weight i would run the deca which will also help with joints on a bulking cycle when your poundages really start to go up.

[powerliftmike]

So there have been a ton of threads going around about how great tren it, and I was looking at planning out my next cycle of the winter (bulking). I was wondering if you guys thought tren or deca gave you better results? Even though its going to be a bulk, i`m going to try and keep off the fat if I can, so I was thinking about tren, but water weight dosen`t bother me. Either way both will be ran with Test and Masteron.

If you guys say Tren, should I run a short ester cycle or long ester?

Alot of the tren info on the net is just from parrots. Some people just look at the androgenic/anabolic ratios and draw conclusions from that too. Deca is better for bulking IMO. Both are 19nors and quite suppressive, so have a good PCT lined up.

[BG]

Some people just look at the androgenic/anabolic ratios and draw conclusions from that too.

Exactly, theres many compounds that look great on paper but do stand up when used.

[M302_Imola]

Have you thought about running NPP? Never ran it but seems like water retention would be at a minimum. Guys that have ran NPP what results did you have?

[one8nine]

Have you thought about running NPP? Never ran it but seems like water retention would be at a minimum. Guys that have ran NPP what results did you have?

i have done:
test/npp/masteron/halo/caber
and
test/tren/masteron/var/letro

i had much better size/strength/endurance/power/speed on the second

[mod1-4]

Tren! Nutrient partitioning effect(more food goes towards muscles/body), strongest AR binding steroid out there, highest anabolic and androgenic score out of all injectables. There is really nothing that can be better or put on more lean mass.

cheque drops is the most powerful anabolic and androgenic score for tren is 500 on both cheque drops is 1500 and 3700

[M302_Imola]

i have done:
test/npp/masteron/halo/caber
and
test/tren/masteron/var/letro

i had much better size/strength/endurance/power/speed on the second

With that being said do you feel that NPP is worth taking?

[Maverick_J8]

i have done:
test/npp/masteron/halo/caber
and
test/tren/masteron/var/letro

i had much better size/strength/endurance/power/speed on the second

Out of curiosity, what were your dosages for the second?

[*ANABOLIC SUPERMAN*]

cheque drops is the most powerful anabolic and androgenic score for tren is 500 on both cheque drops is 1500 and 3700

He said its the most anabolic and androgenic injectiable. Cheque drops is not an injectiable as far as i know.

[Kratos]

cheque drops is the most powerful anabolic and androgenic score for tren is 500 on both cheque drops is 1500 and 3700

there are stronger drugs than cheque drops by anabolic and androgenic score esp if you include some unpopular ones#1 and
#2 what's your point? a cycle of cheque drops is useless

[BUYLONGTERM]

Deca is better for bulking, trens great for cutting imo.

Completely agree. I get ripped up on Tren.


BLT

[dece870717]

Nevermind.

[jethro1]

I've had good results bulking with test/tren and test/deca. Can't say one worked way better than the other for me. Tren definitly seems to have more sides when used at higher doses.