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Thread: Have you ever gotten "test flu"? never/once/sometimes/always

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    I used to get sust flu when i shot 2x/wk, but going back to 1x/wk corrected that issue. I got it every week on wed like clockwork. I don't care what anyone say, sust is best taken 1/wk for me anyway! Still great..GREAT results at 450/1x/wk
    Come on now...You can't be serious? There is no way taking sust 1x/wk is better than taking it EOD? That logic makes no sense. But hey, if you got great results doing that way, I applaud you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUYLONGTERM View Post
    Come on now...You can't be serious? There is no way taking sust 1x/wk is better than taking it EOD? That logic makes no sense. But hey, if you got great results doing that way, I applaud you!
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.
    What data? Show us. Whose this racehorse? Name names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbigt View Post
    What data? Show us. Whose this racehorse? Name names.
    i think race vet racehorse was a joke
    like the saying "straight from the horses mouth"
    a vet that doesnt know how he got gyno or what to do about it even after 20+ threads opened in 24 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    i think race vet racehorse was a joke
    like the saying "straight from the horses mouth"
    a vet that doesnt know how he got gyno or what to do about it even after 20+ threads opened in 24 hours
    Actually that wasn't a joke, and I just got to talk to him after all the posts. I am going tomorrow to get my fix, and no it's not progest/prolac related gyno, and yes Nolva was a good choice to use to hold it a bay. Problem was, when I mentioned deca and gyno, every just jumped on the DECA+NOLAVA=GYNO craze and never really took any time to ask questions. I said my nips were uneffected, which is the first sign that its not prog/prolac gyno after 5 plus weeks of no change. The lump is a sign of test gyno, which also happens in animals, especially race horses...hence the knowlege from the vet is a pretty good bet! He showed me pics today, detailed charts of blood work and how estr/prolac/prog work in the body...etc./. tons of shit that I really didn't take in... Anyway...I'm done with the gyno threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    i think race vet racehorse was a joke
    like the saying "straight from the horses mouth"
    a vet that doesnt know how he got gyno or what to do about it even after 20+ threads opened in 24 hours
    Omg, too funny! Week 3 and day 3 on first cycle, no test flu yet and hopefully never. Feel just fine. Will vote after my 12 week cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.
    because it has test decanoate and was invented for hrt. meaning 1ml every 10-14 days is good for hrt

    bodybuilders use higher dosages

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.
    Can you give link to this data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG-N-Brazil View Post
    Can you give link to this data?
    it is true for hrt patients
    its made so they can shoot 1ml every 2 weeks about
    not bodybuilder dosages though

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    it is true for hrt patients
    its made so they can shoot 1ml every 2 weeks about
    not bodybuilder dosages though
    He wasnt talking about hrt patients though. He better not even try to say he was anyway........... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbigt View Post
    He wasnt talking about hrt patients though. He better not even try to say he was anyway........... lol
    You really need to get you dumbass off the board.. No that's not hrt... 250mg/wk is enough to have good gains on sust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    maybe thats related to all your "help i have gyno" threads
    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.
    I'm not going to argue about HRT doses vs what we take on a cycle! All I know is the more consistent you are when dealing with different esters, the less side effects you will experience. I prefer to have stable blood levels. Hey, My dr. wanted to give me an HRT shot of Test every 2 weeks. I told him you are crazy!

    BLT

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUYLONGTERM View Post
    I'm not going to argue about HRT doses vs what we take on a cycle! All I know is the more consistent you are when dealing with different esters, the less side effects you will experience. I prefer to have stable blood levels. Hey, My dr. wanted to give me an HRT shot of Test every 2 weeks. I told him you are crazy!

    BLT
    I know that many juicers take more, but have you ever tried 250 mg/wk? I bet NO! I have, and guess what... it worked pretty damn good! Now I increased it the next time just due to recept burn effect, but only to 375 with no much different effects. I also did the eod with it and only got sick as hell every week with no better results. I am more interested in taking less and getting good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    I know that many juicers take more, but have you ever tried 250 mg/wk? I bet NO! I have, and guess what... it worked pretty damn good! Now I increased it the next time just due to recept burn effect, but only to 375 with no much different effects. I also did the eod with it and only got sick as hell every week with no better results. I am more interested in taking less and getting good results.
    yes he has actualy

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    I know that many juicers take more, but have you ever tried 250 mg/wk? I bet NO! I have, and guess what... it worked pretty damn good! Now I increased it the next time just due to recept burn effect, but only to 375 with no much different effects. I also did the eod with it and only got sick as hell every week with no better results. I am more interested in taking less and getting good results.
    Yeah, I actually have. If you knew anything about me, you'd see that I changed my life/body composition with lose doses. Look up my pictures and my results. I was always a HUGE advocate of low dose cycles. Now, have I done large cycles? Yes. Why? Not only to have a better understanding of higher dose cycles, but by doing so, I can help myself and guys on the board have a better understand what large/low dose cycles do. I don't give out advise unless I've done it. And trust me, I've done it all. And to me, I never saw a HUGE difference doing large dose cycles vs. Lower dose (except for the sides). I grew up with low test levels my entire life. When it comes to say EQ, Trust me, 200mg is NOT sufficient. Period. so, I have to say, YOU ARE WRONG! And I just don't understand your logic about only getting sick when you did it EOD? To me it makes no sense.

    Peace,

    BLT

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachbum28 View Post
    First off.. tell me why all data on sust says that it can be shot every 10 days, and is best shot 1x/wk? As for logic, do the math on doing shots eod and factor in the buildup effect and you'll see why. If you are going to do shots eod, then a lesser amount needs to be injected once the buildup takes hold, which can only be learned by doing blood work often...straight from a racehorse vets mouth that knows about sust and eq very well. Yes, I have had great results from it this way and never had any problems until now, which I don't think is related.
    YOU will NOT find 1 MOD/VET/experienced guy on any board agreeing with this logic when it comes to taking Sust.

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