Front Loading: A Right Way?

[Reed]

I agree. I have done it in the past, but I really don't see the point in it now. I would rather run the gear for 2 more weeks toward the end I think a better option is to start off your cycle with a short ester or an oral. just my .02

I dont understand why it isn't a good idea. Why wait 4-6 weeks for it to kick in when it may only take 2 weeks. Plus I am only able to do 10 weeks so I am not wanting to wait till week 5 for the stuff to kick in. I wanted to run the main stay of all my future cycles by itself without orals plus I'm not looking to become a pincushion on my first cycle. Not trying to argue just wanting more opinions on the matter

[Mulciber]

I dont understand why it isn't a good idea. Why wait 4-6 weeks for it to kick in when it may only take 2 weeks. Plus I am only able to do 10 weeks so I am not wanting to wait till week 5 for the stuff to kick in. I wanted to run the main stay of all my future cycles by itself without orals plus I'm not looking to become a pincushion on my first cycle. Not trying to argue just wanting more opinions on the matter

why are you only able to run it 10 weeks?
pincuhion?, still gonna be the same amount of injections.. just more oil in the barrel the first few weeks/

[Reed]

why are you only able to run it 10 weeks?
pincuhion?, still gonna be the same amount of injections.. just more oil in the barrel the first few weeks/

I am getting ready for my first competition season and planning on cycling for it so I need to do my first cycle then have enough off time to get into a second competition cycle

Pincushion was referring to using a short ester more frequently with it being prop and the 7x a week I'd been injecting for 10 weeks straight.

[Mulciber]

I am getting ready for my first competition season and planning on cycling for it so I need to do my first cycle then have enough off time to get into a second competition cycle

Pincushion was referring to using a short ester more frequently with it being prop and the 7x a week I'd been injecting for 10 weeks straight.

ok..gotcha..

[abstrack]

I dont understand why it isn't a good idea. Why wait 4-6 weeks for it to kick in when it may only take 2 weeks. Plus I am only able to do 10 weeks so I am not wanting to wait till week 5 for the stuff to kick in. I wanted to run the main stay of all my future cycles by itself without orals plus I'm not looking to become a pincushion on my first cycle. Not trying to argue just wanting more opinions on the matter

I dont think you read my post correctly. I never said it wasnt a good idea. I personally do not think it is all worth it. I personally to like to run longer cycles.

If your main bug is to not wait then run a short ester for 4 weeks in the beginning, or an oral. That would be basically doing the same thing but on a much safer note. Being your first cycle and you worrying about poking yourself daily, but yet your looking into front loading gear with out knowing how your body is going to react to an abundance of test.


You're not going to feel anything quicker. If X took 100mg on day 1 and Y took 500 mg on day 1. Both parties will "feel" the gear at the same time. Y would only have a higher level of test in the body at a given time & duration. This is considering that all is equal.

See if it works for you. Some people like to do it, and some people dont. You have to find out what works for you safely.

[Reed]

I dont think you read my post correctly. I never said it wasnt a good idea. I personally do not think it is all worth it. I personally to like to run longer cycles.

If your main bug is to not wait then run a short ester for 4 weeks in the beginning, or an oral. That would be basically doing the same thing but on a much safer note. Being your first cycle and you worrying about poking yourself daily, but yet your looking into front loading gear with out knowing how your body is going to react to an abundance of test.


You're not going to feel anything quicker. If X took 100mg on day 1 and Y took 500 mg on day 1. Both parties will "feel" the gear at the same time. Y would only have a higher level of test in the body at a given time & duration. This is considering that all is equal.

See if it works for you. Some people like to do it, and some people dont. You have to find out what works for you safely.

Wouldn't you think I'd have a higher possibility of risking infection or other possible negative outcomes to injecting ed for 10 wks then by my body having some sort of negative reaction to high levels of test from frontloading.

And I'm not following the second paragraph with the X and Y example. Are you saying front loading won't work.

[abstrack]

Wouldn't you think I'd have a higher possibility of risking infection or other possible negative outcomes to injecting ed for 10 wks then by my body having some sort of negative reaction to high levels of test from frontloading.

And I'm not following the second paragraph with the X and Y example. Are you saying front loading won't work.

I never said to shoot anything ed. The only thing I mentioned is running an oral in the first 3-4 weeks or a short ester such as prop, tren, ECT...

i dont think infection is at the top of the list in things you needs to worry about. It does happen, but rarely. If you front load with a long ester and have some side effects to the test that you need to control. You cant just pull back and wait a few days as if you were front loading with prop. You would basically have to wait it out. Make sense?

All I am saying in the example is if you were to shoot 500mg on day one and I was going to shoot 100mg on day one. You wouldn't "feel" anything before me. You would only have a higher level of free test in your body at a given time and duration.


See what works for you. Like I said. This is just my .02. Some people like to do it, and some people dont really care for it.


Front loading does work in regards to getting a higher concentration of free test in your body at a given time & duration. There is no question about it. There are other ways to do it to if you dont want to wait 4-5 weeks and are looking to "feel" something in the first couple of weeks.

If you had both Prop and E, and say you were doing 75 ED of Prop, how would you switch over to E to make a smooth transition?

There doesnt need to be any kind of transition You shoot your test e at the same does from day one. All you are doing is running test p at 75mg-100mg ed or eod for the first 4 weeks. At week 4 you stop running test p.


See what works for you. This is just my .02.


If you were to do it. Typically what you do it run 1000mg in the first week, then on week 2 you go back to 500mg.

[TranscriptionFactor]

There doesnt need to be any kind of transition You shoot your test e at the same does from day one. All you are doing is running test p at 75mg-100mg ed or eod for the first 4 weeks. At week 4 you stop running test p.

Ok, I was just concerned that since Test E supposedly takes 4-5 wks to "kick in", if you stopped your Prop totally and went right into shooting 500 EW (in 2 divided doses) of Test E, there would be this lag time or "trough" where your Test would be low and you'd feel weak, get all kinds of bad side effects??

No??

[TranscriptionFactor]

Ok, I was just concerned that since Test E supposedly takes 4-5 wks to "kick in", if you stopped your Prop totally and went right into shooting 500 EW (in 2 divided doses) of Test E, there would be this lag time or "trough" where your Test would be low and you'd feel weak, get all kinds of bad side effects??

No??

Sorry to bump this question, but can someone please explain it to me why its not the case? Meaning, why is abstrack right, which I don't doubt.http://forums.steroid.com/images/smilies/new/shrug.gif