Questions on Winstrol and effects on muscles.

[ramfootball36]

Hey Ram...Ive never seen Lats flame anyone...I think you mis-interpreted what he was saying.

I can relate bro...struggled on and off with lumbar pain...herniated a disk...it blows.

The best thing would be to do an MRI...that way they can isolate any structural abnormalities.

This will help figure out if it's the bony lumbar spine (vertebrae), discs between the vertebrae, ligaments around the spine and discs, spinal cord/nerves, muscles of the low back, internal organs of the pelvis or abdomen.

PT (physical therapy) will help...also things like prednisone, edpidurals or other anti-inflammatorys...that coupled with stretching, strengthening lower back muscles and abs. I've done everything from yoga, pilates to accupunture.

Anabolics aren't the fix, in fact you potentially risk hurting it further...possibly putting more strain on it while lifting heavy...core strength would help as well

But definitely look into an MRI, PT, massage, heat/stem, med-tronics, traction

This will get you back on the field! I've battled mine for 2 years (bad motorcycle accident) and am finally feeling normal, but still get the occasional twinge when lifting, esp. squats, dead lifts

good luck bro

Thanks for clarrifying. I think you're right with the MRI. I just need to know where the damage is. I've done alot of PT on it. The last time I played was 06 and I was on a strict regimen of ice/heat/massage....stem, You name it. And by the fourth game when the weather got a bit colder it was so tight I was having a hard time runnin. The one thing I didn't do as well as I probably should have was stretch. I've been stretching to the point where I wanna throw up and I sure hope it helps take care of the problem. So you back on a bike these days? A bunch of friends and their wives set up a run for me and my buddy. Our birthdays are this sunday, We're riding out to New Mexico and back. I hurt my back last week after this was all set up. And I have a rigid frame chopper......Not gonna be a good combination. lol

[SampsonandDelilah]

Rigid huh? Ouch...you must like pain!! I loved my soft tail (05 Fat Boy) but it was totaled after the accident...hit by a bus...friggin crazy! Also tore my labrum to go along with the back injury...the whole thing sucked!! Finally normal again...thank God!

Didn't replace the bike...wife wanted nothing to do with it. Bought a couple jet skis instead (she'll play on those) really miss my bike though.
New Mexico has some great riding...we used to do the Red River Run all the time. You're in my part of the country then..I'm in CO (Ramfootball isn't for CSU is it? If so, that's my alma mater)

You have to do an MRI bro...only way to know what's going on back there. I've been to some really good Ortho's and they all want to see the film. Can't progress without it.

If we keep jabbing...they'll probably move this post (I've noticed the mods don't like the original post to turn into conversations...lol)...if you have any questions on the lower back, shoot me a PM. Good luck bro...after you get that thing healed up, you can crossover to the dark side (anabolics!)

This site has some smart cats on it...especially when it comes to diets, cycles and PCT. And they have zero tolerance on flaming or being an ass...so dudes are usually pretty cool (I understand the unfamiliar territory thing...I'm a newb here as well) but I've definitely got some good info and the site has helped get me back to my beefy ways! (my injuries were the first I've ever had to endure...took a while to get the body back...still don't totally trust my shoulder yet.

Happy early birthday....ride safe!

[ramfootball36]

Rigid huh? Ouch...you must like pain!! I loved my soft tail (05 Fat Boy) but it was totaled after the accident...hit by a bus...friggin crazy! Also tore my labrum to go along with the back injury...the whole thing sucked!! Finally normal again...thank God!

Didn't replace the bike...wife wanted nothing to do with it. Bought a couple jet skis instead (she'll play on those) really miss my bike though.
New Mexico has some great riding...we used to do the Red River Run all the time. You're in my part of the country then..I'm in CO (Ramfootball isn't for CSU is it? If so, that's my alma mater)

You have to do an MRI bro...only way to know what's going on back there. I've been to some really good Ortho's and they all want to see the film. Can't progress without it.

If we keep jabbing...they'll probably move this post (I've noticed the mods don't like the original post to turn into conversations...lol)...if you have any questions on the lower back, shoot me a PM. Good luck bro...after you get that thing healed up, you can crossover to the dark side (anabolics!)

This site has some smart cats on it...especially when it comes to diets, cycles and PCT. And they have zero tolerance on flaming or being an ass...so dudes are usually pretty cool (I understand the unfamiliar territory thing...I'm a newb here as well) but I've definitely got some good info and the site has helped get me back to my beefy ways! (my injuries were the first I've ever had to endure...took a while to get the body back...still don't totally trust my shoulder yet.

Happy early birthday....ride safe!

CO??? Huh. Thats my stompin ground brother. Yep....Ramfootball is for good ol C-state. I don't know if you follow CSU football much but I played up there with the infamous BVP, Sapp. Back in the golden years. lol Played 2001-2005. Well thank god you came out of the wreck OK. That sounds like a hell of a wreck. I know I'm takin a chance everyday I go out but I figure if I don't die on my bike I'm just gonna die of somethin else. We were up at Ruidoso a few weeks ago for a run in New Mexico.....beautiful area up there. I had no idea New Mexico had any scenery like that. And I'll probably be consulting you on some stuff with the back. Gonna get this looked at as soon as I can. Thanks for the info and I appreciate all the help.

[SampsonandDelilah]

CO??? Huh. Thats my stompin ground brother. Yep....Ramfootball is for good ol C-state. I don't know if you follow CSU football much but I played up there with the infamous BVP, Sapp. Back in the golden years. lol Played 2001-2005. Well thank god you came out of the wreck OK. That sounds like a hell of a wreck. I know I'm takin a chance everyday I go out but I figure if I don't die on my bike I'm just gonna die of somethin else. We were up at Ruidoso a few weeks ago for a run in New Mexico.....beautiful area up there. I had no idea New Mexico had any scenery like that. And I'll probably be consulting you on some stuff with the back. Gonna get this looked at as soon as I can. Thanks for the info and I appreciate all the help.

Small world bro...I SAID IM PROUD TO BE A CSU RAM!

I love CSU football (even though it's been tough the last couple of years)That was a great squad from 01-05! I graduated in 1998, I lived with a couple of players, but we had some good years when I was around with McDougal, Kvamme, Porter, Haggans, Rebstock and Cesario! Those fellas were studs. We could use you back on the field now! I'm going to the homecoming game tomorrow against TCU....it should get ugly!
I played baseball for CSU (friggin Title 9 limited it to club) but I love Fort Collins and the good old Rammies!!

I was actually hit on my bike in Denver, right by DU...we used to ride the Poudre Canyon and Big Thompson all the time...great ride. Now we just hang up at Horse Tooth on the weekends (I still live in the area...brought my wife up here and she loved the area, so we bought a house up here last year and got the hell outta Denver)

I never knew New Mexico was that pretty either til I started doing that Red River ride...not alot of traffic down there either...but the cars that are usually out probably have a drunk behind the wheel 9 outta 10 times! I'm assuming you dont wear a helmet? I didn't, and after the accident, my head was fine...it was everything else that hurt!!

Glad to find another Rammie on here...crazy! Let me know what I can do to help bro...I think I could definitely lead you in the right direction...it's be great to see ya live out that last year of eligibility!!

[ramfootball36]

Small world bro...I SAID IM PROUD TO BE A CSU RAM!

I love CSU football (even though it's been tough the last couple of years)That was a great squad from 01-05! I graduated in 1998, I lived with a couple of players, but we had some good years when I was around with McDougal, Kvamme, Porter, Haggans, Rebstock and Cesario! Those fellas were studs. We could use you back on the field now! I'm going to the homecoming game tomorrow against TCU....it should get ugly!
I played baseball for CSU (friggin Title 9 limited it to club) but I love Fort Collins and the good old Rammies!!

I was actually hit on my bike in Denver, right by DU...we used to ride the Poudre Canyon and Big Thompson all the time...great ride. Now we just hang up at Horse Tooth on the weekends (I still live in the area...brought my wife up here and she loved the area, so we bought a house up here last year and got the hell outta Denver)

I never knew New Mexico was that pretty either til I started doing that Red River ride...not alot of traffic down there either...but the cars that are usually out probably have a drunk behind the wheel 9 outta 10 times! I'm assuming you dont wear a helmet? I didn't, and after the accident, my head was fine...it was everything else that hurt!!

Glad to find another Rammie on here...crazy! Let me know what I can do to help bro...I think I could definitely lead you in the right direction...it's be great to see ya live out that last year of eligibility!!

That was a great crew back in those days. They always called me McDougal, cause I was rockin #36 was about the only white guy playin tailback. lol My brother is actually down there right now and goin to the TCU game. I hope they can hold their own, they're comin around its just gonna take some time. After I had blown my knee and thought I was done playin football I started looking at baseball too. But ya, title 9 wiped it out and now its just a club sport. Such a bunch of garbage.

I love the Poudre Canyon. Many days spent cruising up through their or floating down the river on a tube with a 30 pack in the summer. Good ol Fort Collins, I miss the hell out of that place.

And no, I don't wear a helmet. I know its stupid but theres no feeling like hitting the road and having the wind in your hair. When I used to ride crotch rockets I always wore a helmet, but now cruisin on the chopper I've gotten away from it.

And actually as far as using my last year of eligibility, I took a medical scholarship in 05 after my knee hadn't fully recovered. In 06 the transplant felt great and I wanted to try it again so I made a run to come back. Because I had taken a medical scholarship and not a med redshirt I couldn't file for a 6th year. I still had a great desire to play and transferred out of the NCAA for one semester to play ball. Went to a smaller school and in the fourth game shattered my tibia. Bum deal but I took a direct shot to my knee and the transplant held up but broke my damn leg. I then graduated in 06 and joined the work force. My little brother is now playing on after CSU and I really feel I can make a go at it again. So, unfortunatley the days at Hughes Field are done and over but I just to be on that gridiron again makes my blood boil. lol

[SampsonandDelilah]

Small fuc*ing world!!