BodyBuilders

[JD-pro-]

hey everyone,

So i competing for bodybuilding and i just finished my first show as a natural for the teens and placed first. I have been deciding between whether being natural and and i chosen to start cycling. im 5'11 half basically 6'0 foot. i competed at 163, 4% bf. Now im 190 and 7%. Losing the fat isnt the concern at all. I'm doing another show in May 09, i was wondering if BodyBuilders who HAVE COMPETED help me out with a sick cycle that has worked for them. No offense to ppl who just train but there is a difference.

I have a cycle in mind but i think it might be to advance for it being my first cycle, but ya thanks for the help.

[WARMachine]

age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)


what do you have in mind for a cycle?

And if you could throw up some pics that would help. Edit out tattoos and your face for privacy reasons.

[JD-pro-]

will do whats a good program to hide the face in..

i turn 19 soon, in off season im 190, contest i was 163 but hopefully i can gain some huge mass with a cycle and carry on. im 5'11 basically 6 foot. 4 % on stage off i dont go past 9 % percent.

i want to get up to 200 and still keep my 4% bf when i step on stage and yes i do realize its going to take time but im dedicated to this sport.

thanks

[Mulciber]

most of that is listed.. id say he has diet and training down as well

[Mulciber]

ehhh, damn im slow tonight

[WARMachine]

Just upload your pic on your computer, right click it, and use the edit function.

I believe it takes you into PAINT program.

And bro, you are VERY VERY young to be starting AAS. Lets see that pic, if you are serious about presuing BB for life, then youve made your choice.

But know the risks going in. Your growth plates may close resulting in you not growing much anymore. As well as your natural test levels being reduced for life.

What was the cycle you were thinking?

[JD-pro-]

my work out i go ..

MON: chest, front delts
TUES: back, Side delts
DAY OFF
THURS: Hams, calves
FRI: Arms, abs
DAY OFF
SAT: Quads, glutes

REPEAT

[WARMachine]

most of that is listed.. id say he has diet and training down as well

I was more refering to these stats brother...

diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[T_Own]

will do whats a good program to hide the face in..

i turn 19 soon, in off season im 190, contest i was 163 but hopefully i can gain some huge mass with a cycle and carry on. im 5'11 basically 6 foot. 4 % on stage off i dont go past 9 % percent.

i want to get up to 200 and still keep my 4% bf when i step on stage and yes i do realize its going to take time but im dedicated to this sport.

thanks

just use paint and the brush. solid stats

[JD-pro-]

im trying to upload the pic one sec

[JD-pro-]

k i did the painted face thing now how do i put it on here

[T_Own]

click go advanced, manage attachments and at it or click the insert image button right above the text and put the destination in the tags

or that lol

[WARMachine]

or photobucket it... ^^^^

[JD-pro-]

k i think it worked

[JD-pro-]

i have more if needed

[WARMachine]

Is that in season?

[thebutcher95]

Good work. Have you researched all the pros and cons?????

[JD-pro-]

that was in the show, once again im natural right now so my skin isnt tight as hell

[WARMachine]

k i think it worked

Were gonna need some more. Like chest, bis, legs etc...

Cant make a accurate reading from that pic. Sub 10% for sure but...

[JD-pro-]

Good work. Have you researched all the pros and cons?????

yes, this decision has been going through my head alot and i made my mind up.

[T_Own]

Were gonna need some more. Like chest, bis, legs etc...

Cant make a accurate reading from that pic. Sub 10% for sure but...

thinkin the same thing..

[thebutcher95]

I am not guna tell you to wait. If you made up your mind it is done. Just read read read. Knowlage is power. Oh and good luck !

[JD-pro-]

side chest

[T_Own]

front pics? you can attach more than one at a time too

[JD-pro-]

its not letting me post any for some reason it keeps trying to load then it says connection error or soemthing like when ur internet doesnt work anymore..

[JD-pro-]

got it

[JD-pro-]

i hate the front one, photographer took it un prepared

[FireGuy]

You look good for a first show, especially as a natural teen, that being said, you are not 4% bodyfat, I would put you around 8% in the pictures.

[FireGuy]

As a point of reference, my avatar is what 6.5% bodyfat looks like.

[JD-pro-]

thats all

[JD-pro-]

As a point of reference, my avatar is what 6.5% bodyfat looks like.

thanks.

really?? wow u look alot better than 6..

my problem was the water and of course development

[FireGuy]

You can only get so much development as a teen, you have years left in the gym to make improvements. I would really suggest you stay the natural course, at least for the next few years and lift heavy and eat heavy. Keep getting on stage setting new goals.

[JD-pro-]

from prior experiences what do you guys use to gain muscle.
do u guys mind sharing how u guys cycle off season and going into contest.

I've hear Sustanan 250 isn't bad

[JD-pro-]

Weeks Primobolan Enanthate (Injectable) Dianabol (Dbol)
(oral) Deca Durabolin
(Injectable)


Primobolan Enanthate/Dbol
Week 1 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 2 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 3 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 4 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 5 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 6 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 7 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 8 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 9 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 10 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 11 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 12 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 13 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 14 1000mg / week 100mg / day
Week 15 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 16 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 17 800mg / week 80mg / day
Week 18 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 19 600mg / week 60mg / day
Week 20 600mg / week 60mg / day

DECA/DBOL
Week 21 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 22 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 23 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 24 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 25 30mg / day 200mg / week
Week 26 30mg / day 200mg / week

PCT

START CYCLE (1-20) AGAIN

this was the cycle i had in mind, but i think would def. lower the dosages cause of my first cycle

[T_Own]

definitely not.. you really shouldn't use steroids at all. you really aren't that big, you should keep going naturally for a while. it hurts to hear but its true. i'm similar size.. bigger legs, smaller upper body, but just as thin at times. i would get a stronger natural base first, steroids will always be there for you.

[JD-pro-]

I've been wanting to ask this for awhile, but why does it matter if i stay natural for longer then start using rather than starting earlier. Not health wise but body size wise..

lol did that make sense

[T_Own]

yeah but the point is health wise, you can mess up your hpta (basically your balls) for the rest of your life if you start at a young age. at least when you're a little older your natural test production is down more.

if you are really set on a cycle, you need to research a whole lot more. that proposed cycle is TERRIBLE. absolutely awful. and thats being nice about it

[JD-pro-]

i no that its stops ur growth and things like that. but why would i wait longer rather than starting it now, that the main thing ive been debating about, ive heard both sides but im not sure about why ppl say wait longer

[JD-pro-]

i didnt read ur message T own .. thanks man

[T_Own]

not a problem. and when you get some more stuff together don't hesitate to post it here and get some advice