I accidently...

[The Deuce]

Shot 1 ml of AIR into my Delt along with 1ml of Test P and 1 ml of Bcomplex

Now my delt has a knot in it.. pretty sizeable knot...

I usually dont worry about things like this because I have done hundreds of injections and had knots before..


BUT !!!


I usually inject 1/4ml OF AIR in every injection procedure just to make sure all the gear is delivered into the muscle tissue but never not once have I ever done 1 ML of gear before....


Is this something I should just forget about .. or should I monitor it??


Thanks for helping with my anxiety guys !!!

[jamyjamjr]

why did u do the 1ml in the first place deuce???

i dont think u have much to worry about, since u didn't hit a vein your body should disapate the air accordingly.. keep an eye on it though

[higherdesire]

even 1ml in the vein would not do much. Of course you should monitor it like any other injection site. I would not worry about it though. no biggie.

[The Deuce]

why did u do the 1ml in the first place deuce???

i dont think u have much to worry about, since u didn't hit a vein your body should disapate the air accordingly.. keep an eye on it though

I don't know.. I always Pull back to the 1 ml mark after I measure out all the compounds to make sure I am on the exact mark for having the right amount in the syringe. Then I usually move it up to the 1/4 ml mark and then switch needle tips... then inject. BUT FOR SOME REASON !!!! I didn't do that today!! I am an idiot !!!

And now I have a friggen GOLF BALL SIZE LUMP ON MY DELT !!! It hurts to the touch but didn't prohibit my workout.

OH AND WHEN I TOOK THE NEEDLE OUT... THE WAS THIS SOUND LIKE A SQUIRT SOUND THAT CAME OUT OF MY ARM WHICH WAS THE SOUND OF THE 1ML of AIR trying to come out of my Muscle.... IT WAS WEIRD... You guys shoulda heard it....

[PT]

i would never shoot even a 1/4ml of air into me. for the few drops of oil you might lose you must be nutz

[kdizzog]

i would never shoot even a 1/4ml of air into me. for the few drops of oil you might lose you must be nutz

I agree. Whats the most you'll be out a couple drops, just add an extra ml to you syringe. I try not to shoot even a bubble of air.

[The Deuce]

i would never shoot even a 1/4ml of air into me. for the few drops of oil you might lose you must be nutz

Really?? even 1/4ml is bad?? Never heard of such a thing... I have always always shot an extra 1/4ml of air just to make sure I got all of the gear out AND to add that extra push that allows the compound to be kept inside of the muscle... but if you say that it is unnecessary then maybe it's time to change my ways... I have never had an issue until now.. so I hadnt seen anything wrong with my procedure... AND to top it off my ENDOCRINOLOGIST also reiterated this fact to me when he "Taught me how to inject" 3 months ago. So I just figured when he showed me that that it just reassured me that what I had been doing all along was correct....

[c-Z]

Eh i think I'de take loosing a drop over shooting air into myself....

[RipitFuel]

if u are worried about making sure u get all ur gear.. i would go with.. add a **** hair more.. i havnt really heard much on the whole air thing but it just doesnt sound good to me.. i dunno.. who am i to say

[youngerlion]

Really?? even 1/4ml is bad?? Never heard of such a thing... I have always always shot an extra 1/4ml of air just to make sure I got all of the gear out AND to add that extra push that allows the compound to be kept inside of the muscle... but if you say that it is unnecessary then maybe it's time to change my ways... I have never had an issue until now.. so I hadnt seen anything wrong with my procedure... AND to top it off my ENDOCRINOLOGIST also reiterated this fact to me when he "Taught me how to inject" 3 months ago. So I just figured when he showed me that that it just reassured me that what I had been doing all along was correct....

i definitely dont think it will cause you long term effects but i would just shoot a lil extra juice over the air. purposely injecting air doesnt sound like a good plan for cost/juice efficiency.

[The Deuce]

Eh i think I'de take loosing a drop over shooting air into myself....

It's not just a drop.. the needle tip holds 1/8 of an ml... so it's more than just a drop... if you are dosed at 200mgs per ml.. losing 1/8 of an ml is 25 mgs !! It's all mathematics at this point.

if u are worried about making sure u get all ur gear.. i would go with.. add a **** hair more.. i havnt really heard much on the whole air thing but it just doesnt sound good to me.. i dunno.. who am i to say

i definitely dont think it will cause you long term effects but i would just shoot a lil extra juice over the air. purposely injecting air doesnt sound like a good plan for cost/juice efficiency.

What I wanna know guys is why you think that AIR is bad ??? Putting air into a muscle is not a bad thing... honestly guys it's not. My Endo... who is a MEDICAL DOCTOR !! Informed me that I should be doing that anyways... but if everyone on here thinks it's a "BAD" Thing.. maybe I WILL think about re-evaluating my procedure.

I wanna hear some more from some VETS Telling me so.. I consider myself quite knowledgeable in the world of AAS but I cant know it all.. hence why I am here...TO LEARN!!

So any of you more SEASONED VETERANS that know MORE than I do ... Please tell me that my injection procedure is wrong.

[RA]

Your body will absorb it. Dont do it again.

[The Deuce]

Your body will absorb it. Dont do it again.

Oh I will never shoot a whole ML of air again but ... are you meaning.. don't even shoot the 1/4ml.. or 1/8ml of air??

Through mathematics ... we learn... the needle tip holds an 1/8 of an ml.. and like i pointed out up in the last post... if you have something that is dosed at 200mgs per ml ... losing an 1/8 of an ml is 25 mgs...

I have done probably in excess of 300 injections into my body... and always in everyone of them I have included an 1/8ml of air... if not a quarter ml... So all these years... I have been wrong

[RA]

I pull it back so I have a lil bubble on the top. Thats it. No need to shoot any more than that.

Oh I will never shoot a whole ML of air again but ... are you meaning.. don't even shoot the 1/4ml.. or 1/8ml of air??

Through mathematics ... we learn... the needle tip holds an 1/8 of an ml.. and like i pointed out up in the last post... if you have something that is dosed at 200mgs per ml ... losing an 1/8 of an ml is 25 mgs...

I have done probably in excess of 300 injections into my body... and always in everyone of them I have included an 1/8ml of air... if not a quarter ml... So all these years... I have been wrong

[The Deuce]

Yah that's what I mean.. it's like an 1/8th of an ml... today was a big flub up... but yah you just defined it perfectly.. like a lil bubble on top...

[The Deuce]

What are you talking about dude??

[RA]

Dont worry...local comedian.

[lord henry]

how the hell do you inject 1ml of air by mistake ,come on man i mean i like you an all but thats just fkucing dumb bud ,make sure no air gets injected as its of no benifit to you at all ,1/8ml =25mgs ,thats fuk all if ou were injecting 200mgs per week or 225 per week do you thin k that would make any diff at all ? the answer is no .

[Twist]

couldnt you just boil some grapeseed oil to add to your syringe then you would be wasting 1/8 a ml of grapeseed oil. sounds better to me. If I had a bubble under my skin I would probably get a new stick and suck the air out. lol

[The Deuce]

Dont worry...local comedian.

Is what he said true?? That I have a roid bubble?? That my Gear isn't going to get absorbed because it is sitting in a pocket of air??

how the hell do you inject 1ml of air by mistake ,come on man i mean i like you an all but thats just fkucing dumb bud ,make sure no air gets injected as its of no benifit to you at all ,1/8ml =25mgs ,thats fuk all if ou were injecting 200mgs per week or 225 per week do you thin k that would make any diff at all ? the answer is no .

I was in a rush and just didn't think and stuck the friggen needle in and went to town... like an idiot.. probably the stupidest thing I have ever done.. we all make mistakes... but I try not to make them when it comes to things like this...

I know it was fvcking dumb bro trust me.. I am paying the price now.. my delt is killing me !! But I know it will dissipate in time.. I just have a lump.. happens. STUPIDITY !!

I know air is of no benefit I have just always been under the assumption that a lil wont hurt... especially when it comes to getting the most out of your gear. Over time that 25mgs would add up... in a typical cycle if you were doing 200mgs twice per week.. that's 50mgs per week and at the end of a 16 week cycle that's 800mgs wasted inside the tip of a needle.. That's almost half a bottle... I mean if you really break it down and think about it like that...

It's not like I enjoy shooting air but I just always wanted to make sure all my precious oil goes into my body where it belongs. Ya know??

[The Deuce]

couldnt you just boil some grapeseed oil to add to your syringe then you would be wasting 1/8 a ml of grapeseed oil. sounds better to me. If I had a bubble under my skin I would probably get a new stick and suck the air out. lol

It's not a guarantee that it will be the 1/8 of an ml in the needle tip will be 100% grapeseed oil... anyways... thats neither here nor there.. I am shooting 100mgs ED of Prop and 1ml of Bcomplex... So a total of 2 ml's per day.

As far as bubble under the skin.. yah I was a fool and tried that... lol.. just to see if it would work... it didn't... it was just another unnecessary hole I put in my body.

[lord henry]

yer i see what your saying fella but no air from now on bud lol.
if you think that the tiny ammount left in the pin will do you good then rethink and forget about it ,reall it wont make that much diff at all,i know people who let around 4-5 drops run down the pin before they shoot and whats left in the pin aftr injection ,it totals around 1/4ml ,yes its true ,they still gain great ,just bin that syringe and pin after injection and look forward too next shot ,or buy an extra 10ml and laod 1.2ml into to syringe ,this way you know your getting the full 1ml (250mgs or whatever its dosed at)

hope your delt gets better soon man

[Twist]

when I shot b with prop the b sat on top so the last thing i shot was b. does your b mix completely with the prop? My oil was thicker than it should have been though.

[Dirty_Daddy]

I just asked my cousin who's here with me since she's a nurse what she thought about 1\8ml of air in a steroid siringe...quick answer: shooting any amount of air into a muscle is just the stupidest thing ever...Now i don't wanna be that drastic but com'on man, 1ml?!?!?!?!?

[Big]

What are you talking about dude??

He's a troll, I'll just remove his posts as fast as he posts them...

[Twist]

I think if he got air in his vein he would not be talking to us right now. I heard it is pretty quick

[Big]

I think if he got air in his vein he would not be talking to us right now. I heard it is pretty quick

actually an air embolism takes several cc's to be fatal.

[Twist]

really?? wow good to know. thanks again big.

[lord henry]

couldnt you just boil some grapeseed oil to add to your syringe then you would be wasting 1/8 a ml of grapeseed oil. sounds better to me. If I had a bubble under my skin I would probably get a new stick and suck the air out. lol

just boil some grapeseed oil a ???

you need to add b.a and fillter before you inject any oil (unless you get it sterile then there is no need to boil it anways)

[Twist]

you know what i mean it was discussed previously in another thread. I dont think anyone thought you could just grab a safeway bottle of oil and stick a syringe in it. if you did then you shouldnt be anywhere near gear.

[lord henry]

you know what i mean it was discussed previously in another thread. I dont think anyone thought you could just grab a safeway bottle of oil and stick a syringe in it. if you did then you shouldnt be anywhere near gear.

dident see that other thread mate ,just makeing sure as you will be very suprised what some people would/have done when it comes to steroid use.

[Twist]

I know I heard this one guy injected 1/4 ml of air into his delts at every injection.
sorry duece

[lord henry]

I know I heard this one guy injected 1/4 ml of air into his delts at every injection.
sorry duece

lmfao good one fella

[strength_addict14]

Duece I must admit you have some very entertaining posts bro..... always some dilema.. ha

[The Deuce]

I just asked my cousin who's here with me since she's a nurse what she thought about 1\8ml of air in a steroid siringe...quick answer: shooting any amount of air into a muscle is just the stupidest thing ever...Now i don't wanna be that drastic but com'on man, 1ml?!?!?!?!?

I know I know I know !!! It was a stupid mistake... Retarded even... I deserve the pain I am in for making such a NOOB mistake !!! Alright I get it... NO MORE AIR !!!

He's a troll, I'll just remove his posts as fast as he posts them...

THANKS BIG !!

I think if he got air in his vein he would not be talking to us right now. I heard it is pretty quick

Yah it takes a lot to kill ya...

actually an air embolism takes several cc's to be fatal.

In upwards of 6 cc's of straight air into the vein right??? I think thats what it is...

I know I heard this one guy injected 1/4 ml of air into his delts at every injection.
sorry duece

HUH WHAT?? What are you talking about??

lmfao good one fella

Laughing at my expense... gee thanks...

Duece I must admit you have some very entertaining posts bro..... always some dilema.. ha

LOL... Yah yah yah... I always have some sorta drama going on in my life...... my life is a soap opera... lol

[The Deuce]

And since... The lump has yet to decrease in size and since I am on Prop and since the pain hasnt gotten any worse and since it hasn't gotten any warmer to the touch than normal...

I decided to eat an Ibuprofen 800. I don't EVER EVER EVER take it either... but in this case (I know it can hinder gains and such and it's a big NO NO on cycle) I figured it be the best thing to do for tonight.

I am obviously going to monitor it and if it gets worse and if I develop a fever and if it gets redder and warmer to the touch then I will head on in to the ER but i think it is just another SCARE and not an infection.

I dont wanna deal with an infection. That would mean at least 2 weeks off of training and at this point in my cycle basically I would stop and go back on my TRT dose and retry a cycle again in like 3 months. Stupid I know but THIS IS WORST CASE SCENARIO.

I am not even going to think about infections right now... and just hope that when I wake up tomorrow all is well.. and if not.. well then... oh well... The Doc's will fix me on up.... STUPID AIR IN SYRINGE !!!

[bikepunk]

I'm just new to injecting. But every video or text you read tells you to flick the syringe to get All the air to the top! Then they push the plunger until you get a drop out of the needle.

Someone mentioned that 1cc into a vein wouldn't do anything..... I'd disagree, I've read it's hard on your heart, even the oil in a vein isn't good. It's like a pump, air is bad!

Mulit-dose vials are best, because you can take extra. Then hold it upside down (needle in vial still, and squirt the air and excess juice back into the vial. No air and perfect doses!

[Phate]

I'm just new to injecting. But every video or text you read tells you to flick the syringe to get All the air to the top! Then they push the plunger until you get a drop out of the needle.

Someone mentioned that 1cc into a vein wouldn't do anything..... I'd disagree, I've read it's hard on your heart, even the oil in a vein isn't good. It's like a pump, air is bad!
if you inject correctly then you shouldn't be in a vein to begin with, so this point in kinda moot
Mulit-dose vials are best, because you can take extra. Then hold it upside down (needle in vial still, and squirt the air and excess juice back into the vial. No air and perfect doses!

this is also a great way to compromise the sterility of the vial, you shouldn't shoot back into a vial

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[Immortal Soldier]

this is also a great way to compromise the sterility of the vial, you shouldn't shoot back into a vial

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That makes no sense, you draw air into the syringe and shoot it into the vial, so what difference does it make if after you draw the appropriate amount of gear you shoot the excess the air into the vial? (remember the needle is still in vial and has not been removed since the initial puncture to draw gear)

[eckstg]

This is just an idea and may be completly insane to try but i wonder if you took a syringe and removed the plunger completly and injected into the knot where the air should be, could it possibly release the air like you do when your filling vials adding an extra pin to release the pressure?Just a thought as to i have no clue to how good/terrible idea this could be?It seems there might be the possibility also of open oir traveling into syringe and getting into your muscle also.