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    Of course TRT will fix the problem straight away , I thought that you were interested in getting your own testosterone "back on track" .
    There are some points you should consider in order to avoid unpleasant surprises during the TRT anyway.

    Here some basics to avoid ED/loss of libido during TRT , IMHO :

    1- Don't go up 200/week with vials.
    2 - Don't go down 80/100 mg. a day with gel. 50mg/day could be not enough.
    3 - In case you start vials (enant.cyp.etc.etc.) keep on hand some AI , like Arimidex or Aromasin , it will prevent any testosterone aromatization .
    4 - 50 mg. Proviron always .
    5* - Take a 6 weeks break every 6 months ; It will help the system to clean receptors ; during the break take HCG 2000 IU 3 times a week for 3 weeks followed by Clomid 50mg+Proviron 25mg everyday for the next 3 weeks .

    *Althought I know people on TRT for years without interruption and without having any problems .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testomaster View Post
    Of course TRT will fix the problem straight away , I thought that you were interested in getting your own testosterone "back on track" .
    There are some points you should consider in order to avoid unpleasant surprises during the TRT anyway.

    Here some basics to avoid ED/loss of libido during TRT , IMHO :

    1- Don't go up 200/week with vials.
    2 - Don't go down 80/100 mg. a day with gel. 50mg/day could be not enough.
    3 - In case you start vials (enant.cyp.etc.etc.) keep on hand some AI , like Arimidex or Aromasin , it will prevent any testosterone aromatization .
    4 - 50 mg. Proviron always .
    5* - Take a 6 weeks break every 6 months ; It will help the system to clean receptors ; during the break take HCG 2000 IU 3 times a week for 3 weeks followed by Clomid 50mg+Proviron 25mg everyday for the next 3 weeks .

    *Althought I know people on TRT for years without interruption and without having any problems .
    My main concern is getting my natural test back. But, I'm wondering if taking just one shot of Test Enan, say 100 or 250mg, and then maintaining the Androgel 5mg week 1 and decrease dosage for two successive weeks will get me a jump start. And, will this impede my recovery much? Right now my test is at rock bottom and I'm just looking for a way to get ahead of the curve, but my main concern is to get my natural test production back. Thanks.

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    Got my blood work back today. Everything looks good and is within range except for my testosterone level. It did climb from 28 to 143 in 5 days without any meds. I'm on the 4th day of Androgel and seem to be feeling better, but I'm still wondering if I should go ahead and take a one time shot of Test Enan. Opinions please? Will it hurt natural recovery more than it will be worth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxguy125 View Post
    Got my blood work back today. Everything looks good and is within range except for my testosterone level. It did climb from 28 to 143 in 5 days without any meds. I'm on the 4th day of Androgel and seem to be feeling better, but I'm still wondering if I should go ahead and take a one time shot of Test Enan. Opinions please? Will it hurt natural recovery more than it will be worth?
    Since you feel better, keep on gel. My suggestion is to not mix gel with enan.
    In my experience I've found 50gel/day not enough, I did 100/day.
    I'm currently on enanthate and I feel ok, except for the testicles .

    Test.enanth. will be more effective but it is more easily convertible to estrogen so in case u decide to switch gel for vials , keep on hand some antiestrogen like Aromasin,Arimidex.
    Last edited by Testomaster; 05-01-2009 at 10:24 PM.

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