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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    If you can handle the sides associated with Tren that would be the ultimate cutter. I unfortunately can't so I usually replace the tren with var and NPP but Tren would be better. For example, after I finish off the rest of this Suspension, which I absolutely love, I'll be running Prop/Masteron/var/NPP for the final stretch.
    How long is your cycle? Why do you prefer the suspension to prop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska View Post
    How long is your cycle? Why do you prefer the suspension to prop?
    This one is longer than usual - 16 weeks. We're having a transformation contest over at OLM.

    Susp or TNE is hands down better than Prop for quick gains in size and strength. I run Prop in cutters. Suspension is probably my all time favorite compound.

    My cycle looked like this:

    Week 1-5
    Oil based TNE - 50mgs/ed
    Inj Dbol - 50mgs/ed
    Test E - 750mgs/wk
    Deca - 400mgs/wk
    Proviron - 50-75mgs/ed

    Weeks 5-9
    Test E - 900mgs/wk
    Deca - 450mgs/wk
    Proviron - 75mgs/ed

    Week 9 - dropped Deca
    Week 10 - dropped Test E and added Suspension (water based)

    This is where I am now (week 11) and will continue for another week - Suspension - 75mgs on training days only

    Weeks 12-16

    Prop - 100mgs/eod
    Masteron -100mgs/eod
    NPP - 100mgs/eod
    Var - 60mgs/ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    This one is longer than usual - 16 weeks. We're having a transformation contest over at OLM.

    Susp or TNE is hands down better than Prop for quick gains in size and strength. I run Prop in cutters. Suspension is probably my all time favorite compound.

    My cycle looked like this:

    Week 1-5
    Oil based TNE - 50mgs/ed
    Inj Dbol - 50mgs/ed
    Test E - 750mgs/wk
    Deca - 400mgs/wk
    Proviron - 50-75mgs/ed

    Weeks 5-9
    Test E - 900mgs/wk
    Deca - 450mgs/wk
    Proviron - 75mgs/ed

    Week 9 - dropped Deca
    Week 10 - dropped Test E and added Suspension (water based)

    This is where I am now (week 11) and will continue for another week - Suspension - 75mgs on training days only

    Weeks 12-16

    Prop - 100mgs/eod
    Masteron -100mgs/eod
    NPP - 100mgs/eod
    Var - 60mgs/ed
    Looks like a hell of a cycle, how are your results so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polska View Post
    Looks like a hell of a cycle, how are your results so far?
    Honestly, I'm pretty much maintaining my gains from the first 5 weeks. I blew up close to 25 pounds in the first few weeks and right now I'm just focused on muscle endurance (higher reps to failure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice Authority View Post
    Honestly, I'm pretty much maintaining my gains from the first 5 weeks. I blew up close to 25 pounds in the first few weeks and right now I'm just focused on muscle endurance (higher reps to failure).
    With testE taking a few weeks to really kick in im surprised you didnt start it while on Prop? Seems like you'd went couple weeks there with not so much test yeah?
    I dont know much about suspension, but kind of interested. How much before workout do you take it? You can feel it yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIITB$ View Post
    With testE taking a few weeks to really kick in im surprised you didnt start it while on Prop? Seems like you'd went couple weeks there with not so much test yeah?
    I dont know much about suspension, but kind of interested. How much before workout do you take it? You can feel it yeah?
    My plan was not to drop Test E or Deca when I did. Unfortunately I deviated from my HG philosophy and mixed in some UG gear from a lab I hadn’t used before but had a 'good rep'. The injection pain from this particular UG that shall remain nameless was so unbearable I had to drop both the Test E and Deca and go with something to bridge the gap. I went with Suspension and it ending up working out just fine. If you take 50-75mgs of Susp 1-1.5hrs before your workout you'll notice an incredible difference.

    Morale of the story: Never go with UG gear when there is an HG equivalent. Don't be cheap and cut corners like I did when you know better.

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    Im a newb and the only thing i got acess to is UG...so im suckin it up and trying to deal with it lol

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