Bicep tips(?)

[eatrainrest]

first thign i read was isolation of the biceps.... IMPOSSIBLE

[ninesecz]

first thign i read was isolation of the biceps.... IMPOSSIBLE

I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!

[eatrainrest]

I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!

im sorry i come off liek that sometimes, too bad computers cant show emotions lol. im not flaming anybody i just throw my .02 and if you take it that way well its not intended to offend you. and of course im not that naive or cocky. as a trainer, i have worked, seen, experiemented, and have formulated certain beliefs that i hold through my experiences and through others (clients, co-workers). as people on the board know that im always open for criticism and open minded to the board. i actually take the comment as disrespect as i dedicate alot of my time trying to help various members throughout the board all over the forums

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have read probably a 100 of your posts and I have to tell ya I do not think you have ever once actually agreed with another member or complimented them on the stuff they are doing or what they are thinking about doing! I know you are a PT but you need to not think you are 100% right in your thoughts every time and realize people are all different and different thinks for different people! Tell you what, I may not have my personal trainer cert. yet, but i know I have more information and knowledge on the subject than about 65% of the trainers I have met in my life! And i have met PT in New York, New Jersey, Arizona, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, and my homeotwn of Syracuse New York. and I am sill confident with that statement! You need to lighten up a little. just because you got a cert. does not mean that everbodies info is wrong and yours is right. Like for instance You thave told me on 3 different posts all with different workout routines and your answer to all 3 was... Your doing to much! 15-20 sets for the quads is not too much! nor is it too much for the back or for the chest. For the arms, traps, calves, yes 9-12 is enough/ it is just funny that it is always you and it seems like no matter what anyone else is doing they are wrong in your eyes!

I have been a personal trainer for 23 years and you are correct in that getting certified proves nothing. I'll go a step further and say just because someone have been to college for exercise science
proves nothing!

In defense of eatrainrest, he's said good things about my Slingshot Training System and has put out some very sound advice. So, he's definetely an assett to this board in my eyes. I will also agree that some can get by with 20 sets a week for chest, legs, back or even arms for a limited period of time but what I want you to understand is that when you read about a certain pro doing 20 sets for legs in a muscle magazine they often forget to tell you that some of those sets are usually warm up sets or they are sets not taken to failure. No one that I have met can do 20 sets of various squats to failure and not over-train their cns. It's practically impossible!!!! And a muscle stops firing after about 12 intense work sets. Some may be able to go as high as 15 sets but I have never seen anyone do 20 sets. In order to do 20 productive work sets you will have to resort to twice a week muscle training and perform 10 sets twice a week for legs as opposed to doing 20 sets all at once.

No one will agree on everything but there is some common ground most of us can agree on. I also realize that sometimes it's just a matter of preference rather than principle-meaning some may feel they make better gains doing 12 sets for quads when in reality they may do just as well with 8 sets.

[eatrainrest]

I have been a personal trainer for 23 years and you are correct in that getting certified proves nothing. I'll go a step further and say just because someone have been to college for exercise science
proves nothing!

In defense of eatrainrest, he's said good things about my Slingshot Training System and has put out some very sound advice. So, he's definetely an assett to this board in my eyes. I will also agree that some can get by with 20 sets a week for chest, legs, back or even arms for a limited period of time but what I want you to understand is that when you read about a certain pro doing 20 sets for legs in a muscle magazine they often forget to tell you that some of those sets are usually warm up sets or they are sets not taken to failure. No one that I have met can do 20 sets of various squats to failure and not over-train their cns. It's practically impossible!!!! And a muscle stops firing after about 12 intense work sets. Some may be able to go as high as 15 sets but I have never seen anyone do 20 sets. In order to do 20 productive work sets you will have to resort to twice a week muscle training and perform 10 sets twice a week for legs as opposed to doing 20 sets all at once.

No one will agree on everything but there is some common ground most of us can agree on. I also realize that sometimes it's just a matter of preference rather than principle-meaning some may feel they make better gains doing 12 sets for quads when in reality they may do just as well with 8 sets. The mind is a powerful tool.

[Ronnie Rowland]

It's a very good article but like eatrainrest stated you cannot totally isolate or change the shape of your biceps.