Testosterone Enanthate, USP 300 (NEWBIE ?'s)

[CJAKT]

I have read tons and tons of information on this type of steroid and still I'm nervous about the dosage for me.

Mr brother 32 and myself 27 just started a simple cycle of Testosterone Enthate where he does .5 mL every other day. I myself am doing 1mL (which I believe is the same as 1 cc) every other day. I don't wanna be doing to much and I don't wanna be doing so light that it's pointless.

My stats:
Age: 27
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 210lbs
Body Fat: Unsure but guaranteed high, have skinny legs and arms with a nice "belly"
Steroid: Testosterone Enthate, USP 300 (300mg/mL) <<not a doctor so not sure how these numbers equate>>
Needle used: 3ml 20g1 1/2(0.9mm x 40mm)

My goal is to trim all my body fat and gain some muscle. I'm not looking to get huge or even big for that matter, just lean and ****** up. Been a long time since I have been back down at 175lbs ******.

**All help is greatly appreciated to both of us, thank you in advance for helping out a newbie to the beautiful world of Test Enth. Steroid.

[ninesecz]

You both need to stop right now and read what the hell you are actually doing!! your brother i doing 1`5mg EoD and you are doing 1ml EOD that means you are doing 900mg a week!! almost twice what you should be doing! and you do not shoot Enanthate EOD you shoot it 2X per week ! Thats it! You guys areobviuosly those type that do not care about your body and will put anything in it regardless! Do you even have PCT figured out for when the cycle is over or are you just going to not havr any natural test production for the rest of your life? On top of it why would you want to shoot with such a big needle! Here is a good rule of thumb If you have no idea what the concentration of the steroids you are taking are... you should not be anywhere near steroids in the first place!

[Ripped Mass]

I have read tons and tons of information on this type of steroid and still I'm nervous about the dosage for me.

Mr brother 32 and myself 27 just started a simple cycle of Testosterone Enthate where he does .5 mL every other day. I myself am doing 1mL (which I believe is the same as 1 cc) every other day. I don't wanna be doing to much and I don't wanna be doing so light that it's pointless.

My stats:
Age: 27
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 210lbs
Body Fat: Unsure but guaranteed high, have skinny legs and arms with a nice "belly"
Steroid: Testosterone Enthate, USP 300 (300mg/mL) <<not a doctor so not sure how these numbers equate>>
Needle used: 3ml 20g1 1/2(0.9mm x 40mm)

My goal is to trim all my body fat and gain some muscle. I'm not looking to get huge or even big for that matter, just lean and ****** up. Been a long time since I have been back down at 175lbs ******.

**All help is greatly appreciated to both of us, thank you in advance for helping out a newbie to the beautiful world of Test Enth. Steroid.

Test Enth. should only be taken twice a week! EOD is way too often, it has a long ester so it takes a while for your body to absorb/breakdown, test prop. has a short ester and is taken ED or EOD. You should be doing Mon. morning and Thursday evening, try to get exactly 3.5 days apart to keep blood levels stable. At 300 mg. you should do 1cc twice a week, I do not think .5 twice a week would do much but maybe a little at 300mg, alot of enth. are only 200mg/ml.
You need to be doing cardio and get that diet in check, cut down on the carbs and fast food to knock that belly out. Test enth. might bloat you a little, especially with a crappy diet, so diet is extra important with that cycle if you are trying to lean out.

[Ripped Mass]

You both need to stop right now and read what the hell you are actually doing!! your brother i doing 1`5mg EoD and you are doing 1ml EOD that means you are doing 900mg a week!! almost twice what you should be doing! and you do not shoot Enanthate EOD you shoot it 2X per week ! Thats it! You guys areobviuosly those type that do not care about your body and will put anything in it regardless! Do you even have PCT figured out for when the cycle is over or are you just going to not havr any natural test production for the rest of your life? On top of it why would you want to shoot with such a big needle! Here is a good rule of thumb If you have no idea what the concentration of the steroids you are taking are... you should not be anywhere near steroids in the first place!

Well I was trying to be nice to the guy but-yeah what you said too!

[T-MOS]

Welcome to AR

does not sound like either you or your brother are ready to be using steroids just yet.

The idea is to know what you are doing BEFORE you actually start altering your body's chemistry

What do you have for PCT??
What do you have on hand in case of gyno signs or bloat during this cycle
You are BOTH taking TOO MUCH......and TOO OFTEN test E only needs shot twice a week, NOT EOD !!!
Needle is TOO BIG and probably TOO SHORT if you are shooting in your glute

Where are you injecting EOD???

if you "JUST STARTED" I suggest you JUST STOP !!! until you have the EDUCATION to do this correctly and safely

[CJAKT]

I have read and read and read about this and for the life of me I cannot figure out how the mL's convert to dosages and such. I have read all side effects along with general information on this steroid here at this website and others. Could you please clear up the problems I am having with the dosage amount and the way the numbers equate on the bottle?

[T-MOS]

I have read and read and read about this and for the life of me I cannot figure out how the mL's convert to dosages and such. I have read all side effects along with general information on this steroid here at this website and others. Could you please clear up the problems I am having with the dosage amount and the way the numbers equate on the bottle?

1 cc is basically = to 1 ml

[ninesecz]

Like T-mos said an ML and a CC are the same thing.... the concentration of the drug is on the bottle IE 300mg/ml or 250mg/ml so basically if 1ml is = to 1 cc 1 cc would be equal to 250mg or 300mg or whatever the bottle tells you the concentration is!
Still, you should not be doing steroids, you are a long way from being ready in my opinion

[CJAKT]

Yeah I read that and was unsure if that was correct. I really did think we read enough about it and was honestly doing what I thought to have read as correct. The math really confuses me and without and assistance from an expert its rather tuff as a novice. My apologies to anyone I upset with my post. Just looking for well informed individuals with experience in the field where I would like to go for a more better looking me.

[CJAKT]

Like T-mos said an ML and a CC are the same thing.... the concentration of the drug is on the bottle IE 300mg/ml or 250mg/ml so basically if 1ml is = to 1 cc 1 cc would be equal to 250mg or 300mg or whatever the bottle tells you the concentration is!
Still, you should not be doing steroids, you are a long way from being ready in my opinion

I agree and am stopping till I have gathered enough information from you guys and others. (ie professionals)

[ninesecz]

i understand but steroids are not miracles in a bottle. Yo need to have your diet and exercise routine down to a "t" before you take steroids and expect them to work properly
If I handed ou a hand full of pills if you had a back ache and said these are morphine .. would you just pop 10 of them not knowing if they would kill you or not? Steroids are just as dangerous! And again,,Do you even know what PCT is or having a course of it set up?

[T-MOS]

Yeah I read that and was unsure if that was correct. I really did think we read enough about it and was honestly doing what I thought to have read as correct. The math really confuses me and without and assistance from an expert its rather tuff as a novice. My apologies to anyone I upset with my post. Just looking for well informed individuals with experience in the field where I would like to go for a more better looking me.

Well you came to the RIGHT place for education. It's just a shame you didn't come BEFORE you started things! Too many people come here AFTER they already started down the wrong path.

you didn't answer my questions above

What do you have for PCT??

What do you have for ancillaries for during ??

What has been your injection protocol?? where have you been injecting that 20g 1inch pin??

[CJAKT]

Welcome to AR

does not sound like either you or your brother are ready to be using steroids just yet.

The idea is to know what you are doing BEFORE you actually start altering your body's chemistry

What do you have for PCT??
What do you have on hand in case of gyno signs or bloat during this cycle
You are BOTH taking TOO MUCH......and TOO OFTEN test E only needs shot twice a week, NOT EOD !!!
Needle is TOO BIG and probably TOO SHORT if you are shooting in your glute

Where are you injecting EOD???

if you "JUST STARTED" I suggest you JUST STOP !!! until you have the EDUCATION to do this correctly and safely

We are gonna take or at least were gonna take "Nolvadex" at the conclusion of this 300mg/ml bottle split between the two of us.

[CJAKT]

Well you came to the RIGHT place for education. It's just a shame you didn't come BEFORE you started things! Too many people come here AFTER they already started down the wrong path.

you didn't answer my questions above

What do you have for PCT??

What do you have for ancillaries for during ??

What has been your injection protocol?? where have you been injecting that 20g 1inch pin??

Injecting into right above butt checks top part of check as I read here on this site for injecting information. As for ancillaries that is the only thing I do not know about.

[ninesecz]

wait wait wait... you and your brother were going to SPLIT 1 bottle and you thought that would be a cycle??? Guess what for both of you to doa proper 10-12 weeks cycle of test. you and your brother would need 6-8 10ml vials!! One woill only last the 2 of you for 2-3 weeks!

[T-MOS]

We are gonna take or at least were gonna take "Nolvadex" at the conclusion of this 300mg/ml bottle split between the two of us.

ok, so you were gonna share a vial of Test E that is dosed at 300mg/ml. How many ML's total in the vial??

Nolvadex is good, but you will need MORE than just that. We have a great PCT section here, I suggest you spend some time in it and read the threads stuck to the top

When were you gonna start your PCT? there is specific times depending on the specific esters you are taking

[CJAKT]

ok, so you were gonna share a vial of Test E that is dosed at 300mg/ml. How many ML's total in the vial??

Nolvadex is good, but you will need MORE than just that. We have a great PCT section here, I suggest you spend some time in it and read the threads stuck to the top

When were you gonna start your PCT? there is specific times depending on the specific esters you are taking

Wow I am glad I have only shot one time because as of right now... "there will be no more till I have all the things you tell me I need" and have read the areas suggested. god I feel like an idiot! Guy at the gym acted like he was the king and knew what he was talking about and yet I find out now he only knows the bare minimum if that.

[CJAKT]

wait wait wait... you and your brother were going to SPLIT 1 bottle and you thought that would be a cycle??? Guess what for both of you to doa proper 10-12 weeks cycle of test. you and your brother would need 6-8 10ml vials!! One woill only last the 2 of you for 2-3 weeks!

I want to apologize for my ignorance and thank you for giving me valuable advice.

[CJAKT]

ok, so you were gonna share a vial of Test E that is dosed at 300mg/ml. How many ML's total in the vial??

Nolvadex is good, but you will need MORE than just that. We have a great PCT section here, I suggest you spend some time in it and read the threads stuck to the top

When were you gonna start your PCT? there is specific times depending on the specific esters you are taking

10mL vial

[ninesecz]

half of the people out there are doing steroids without a clue what they are doing.. probably some idiot that just wanted to make some money off of you! As I said a proper cycle for 1 person for 12 weeks takes about 3 10ml vials of test.
Before you do the steroids, Make sure you know all these questions
How to do proper PCT
How do set up a proper diet
What the half life and injection schedule is of what your taking
what dosage you should be taking
what you should have for ancillaries for PCT/ possible Gyno
what size needles you should use
How to inject / draw properly
how to male sure your vial / syringe stay sterile
and most importantly read read read read..... and spend a lot of time here reading as well as asking questions.. most subjects have been covered before so you can also try the search function
Good Luck and for christ's sake don be in such a hurry! Put a strong diet together and maybe some creatine, and you will just from tht see some serious muscle gain!

[ninesecz]

10mL vial

think about that.... you were shooting 1ml X 3 a week and your brother was shooting .5ml X 3 a week (or more ar EoD) that means in 1 weeks time, you and him would have used a combined total of 4.5ml! that was half the 10ml bottle right there!! and Enanthate esters need to be ran for 10-12 weeks ! They take 4-6 weeks before enanthate will even astart to show/yield results!

[CJAKT]

half of the people out there are doing steroids without a clue what they are doing.. probably some idiot that just wanted to make some money off of you! As I said a proper cycle for 1 person for 12 weeks takes about 3 10ml vials of test.
Before you do the steroids, Make sure you know all these questions
How to do proper PCT
How do set up a proper diet
What the half life and injection schedule is of what your taking
what dosage you should be taking
what you should have for ancillaries for PCT/ possible Gyno
what size needles you should use
How to inject / draw properly
how to male sure your vial / syringe stay sterile
and most importantly read read read read..... and spend a lot of time here reading as well as asking questions.. most subjects have been covered before so you can also try the search function
Good Luck and for christ's sake don be in such a hurry! Put a strong diet together and maybe some creatine, and you will just from tht see some serious muscle gain!

Ok this all has been very helpful.

I am gonna start right now researching everything listed above and appreciate your guys help. Is it possible to not stop and have wasted one inject for me and two for my brother and get all the information together and more vials and pct's along with proper gauge needles and just start back up with the next inject 7 days out from the last that way injects weren't wasted and I get all the info needed to continue? Our diets are already tight here with that so that is def in check already. Been working out 1 yr and half and stopped for 6 months and have been back for 5 since to currently.

[ninesecz]

You could keep going but the problem is that you know now that you need to do research and thats great but the problem is that you are going by what were are telling as being right and not knowing for sure for your self. Even know we are not lying to you and the info is correct, you should know all this info for yourself and also know why something does what it does! I think seeing how you have only done one week each ( could be in your 4-5 week) I would wait and plan a start date after you figure everything out like exactly how long to run the cycle, how any vials you will need, the right materials for pct etc. etc. rome was not built in a day so do not try to build yourself up in a day!

[T-MOS]

Here, this thread will give you a LOT of the basic info you need BEFORE running any cycle

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

[CJAKT]

Thanks to both! I upped both reps as I am new to here and just found that option out. Anyways thank you guys for all the great info! My brother is coming over tonight to put in some work on reading and better understanding. Thank you thank you thank you.

Hey by the way off topic, is it safe to read and trust all the things written by this guy "Anthony Roberts" listed on the main site of www.steroid.com ie
Steroid Cycles for Beginners

By Anthony Roberts

[CJAKT]

Oh by the way if I do stop and start back up in 4-5weeks will the 1cc i already took affect me in anyway? And if so what should I do?

[T-MOS]

Thanks to both! I upped both reps as I am new to here and just found that option out. Anyways thank you guys for all the great info! My brother is coming over tonight to put in some work on reading and better understanding. Thank you thank you thank you.

Hey by the way off topic, is it safe to read and trust all the things written by this guy "Anthony Roberts" listed on the main site of www.steroid.com ie
Steroid Cycles for Beginners

By Anthony Roberts

the link I gave you above is the BEST and most up to date beginner cycle thread. it has EVERYTHING you need to know and understand

[CJAKT]

the link I gave you above is the BEST and most up to date beginner cycle thread. it has EVERYTHING you need to know and understand

Yeah the one you gave me is way better and I have skimmed that article before.