wondering if i need to go more intense?

[eatrainrest]

they recover as fast as any other muscle.. if you work the core region liek you should 1-2 times weekly is more than enough. the problem is people perform situps and body weight exercises for abs, which does not maximize size nor strength of the abs. the same example would be performing pushups for chest, you wont get the results you want.

[kaptainkeezy04]

they recover as fast as any other muscle.. if you work the core region liek you should 1-2 times weekly is more than enough. the problem is people perform situps and body weight exercises for abs, which does not maximize size nor strength of the abs. the same example would be performing pushups for chest, you wont get the results you want.

so what is ideal for abs?

[eatrainrest]

so what is ideal for abs?

i usually train abs with weights around 15 rep range 1x weekly. But, liek you said you can train them 2x if they lag, but thats like every othe rmuscle as well.