EQ Only Cycle

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Is there a test shortage? I mean really...

Test is needed for normal labido and immune function...

I just don't understand why all these no test cycles!

1) Various compounds suppress your HPTA to varying degrees. You will never have zero test in your system.

2) You recover faster from compounds that are mild on your HPTA. Most don't need to run HCG during or after an oxandrolone or EQ cycle, and you can recover just using nolva and/or clomid.

3) People may not want the gains testosterone has to offer. Some people would rather have leaner more quality gains. Blowing up 20-25lbs being in a professional job is like wearing a big pink sign that says "Look at me...I'm juicing!". 30-50 year old men aren't supposed to grow like that in 12 weeks.

4) People may not want the pontential sides testosterone has to offer. It is a fairly potent androgen that accelerates hairline issues, body hair, acne, etc... It aromatizes so you are more prone to gyno and all of the associated side affects of estrogen such as bloat, and further suppression of your HPTA.

5) You may need ancillaries such as HCG and an AI, which make the cycle more complicated. HCG adds further estrogen so read #4 again.

6) Testosterone and tren are potent androgenic compounds. Adrogens are associated with CHD (cornary heart disease).

7) You may or may not have sexual dysfunction using EQ alone. Adding test is not always affective for some people in improving sex drive. My dick went in the dirt on tren and no amount of test could help it.

Again, I have done many EQ based cycles without test and my immune system is fine. I haven't had the flu in years, and never while on cycle. Moot point however, because there is never zero test in our system, and other compounds could do fine in support of our immmune system.

Hope that helps...

[Dancer]

1) Various compounds suppress your HPTA to varying degrees. You will never have zero test in your system. True

2) You recover faster from compounds that are mild on your HPTA. Most don't need to run HCG during or after an oxandrolone or EQ cycle, and you can recover just using nolva and/or clomid. Will depend mostly on the user, HPTA supp is a function that can not be predicted and vary from person to person, Unless that individual has person experience with the given compound that person need to plan for the worse... Largly as you will point out with tren for you, individual genetics is unpredictable...

3) People may not want the gains testosterone has to offer. Some people would rather have leaner more quality gains. Blowing up 20-25lbs being in a professional job is like wearing a big pink sign that says "Look at me...I'm juicing!". 30-50 year old men aren't supposed to grow like that in 12 weeks.This issue comes up mre times a day than I can count, for normal labido/immune function as little as 200mg test EW will work, I sseriously doubt you are gonna blow up 20+ pounds by adding 200mg test... Diet/lifting/sleep/cardio will play more of a factor than drugs in weight gain...
I do not want some FNG to mis read this, Just cause you are gonna run test does not mean you are going to gain 20+ pounds

4) People may not want the pontential sides testosterone has to offer. It is a fairly potent androgen that accelerates hairline issues, body hair, acne, etc... It aromatizes so you are more prone to gyno and all of the associated side affects of estrogen such as bloat, and further suppression of your HPTA. I agree that with any amount of test you need to have an AI around

5) You may need ancillaries such as HCG and an AI, which make the cycle more complicated. HCG adds further estrogen so read #4 again. even on a EQ only cycle or var or halo or _________, Unless you have prior experience with that compound it is worth while to spend a little bitta of money and have HCG and nolv around, you reaction to that compound with respect to your HPTA might need a better PCT plan than the next guy

6) Testosterone and tren are potent androgenic compounds. Adrogens are associated with CHD (cornary heart disease). Androgens have been linked to increase CHD but keep in mind var is an androgen and so is EQ and so on... I dont want some FNG reading this and thinkin 'well if i use EQ I am EQ I am not gonna see any sides'

7) You may or may not have sexual dysfunction using EQ alone. Adding test is not always affective for some people in improving sex drive. My dick went in the dirt on tren and no amount of test could help it. Here again your individual reaction to the given compound will depend on you, But the comparablee is misleading, tren shuts down labido via progestrone related sides, EQ does not.

Again, I have done many EQ based cycles without test and my immune system is fine. I haven't had the flu in years, and never while on cycle. Moot point however, because there is never zero test in our system, and other compounds could do fine in support of our immmune system.

Hope that helps...

Here again and I appreciate the debate... I do not understand why people do not run test... I am not suggesting 1000mg EW... Low dosage test 200mg-ish will keep labido going and help immune issues.

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Here again and I appreciate the debate... I do not understand why people do not run test... I am not suggesting 1000mg EW... Low dosage test 200mg-ish will keep labido going and help immune issues.

Just because you get sick when you come off test doesn't mean everyone does. I never have. You have some other kind of issue going on. I've never heard of people consistently getting sick because of low test. See a doc.

If you can't understand why people don't want to run test based on what I wrote you're just being stubborn.

Edit: Btw, Var and EQ are very weak androgens. EQ is mostly anabolic.

[Matt]

1) Various compounds suppress your HPTA to varying degrees. You will never have zero test in your system.

2) You recover faster from compounds that are mild on your HPTA. Most don't need to run HCG during or after an oxandrolone or EQ cycle, and you can recover just using nolva and/or clomid.

3) People may not want the gains testosterone has to offer. Some people would rather have leaner more quality gains. Blowing up 20-25lbs being in a professional job is like wearing a big pink sign that says "Look at me...I'm juicing!". 30-50 year old men aren't supposed to grow like that in 12 weeks.

4) People may not want the pontential sides testosterone has to offer. It is a fairly potent androgen that accelerates hairline issues, body hair, acne, etc... It aromatizes so you are more prone to gyno and all of the associated side affects of estrogen such as bloat, and further suppression of your HPTA.

5) You may need ancillaries such as HCG and an AI, which make the cycle more complicated. HCG adds further estrogen so read #4 again.

6) Testosterone and tren are potent androgenic compounds. Adrogens are associated with CHD (cornary heart disease).

7) You may or may not have sexual dysfunction using EQ alone. Adding test is not always affective for some people in improving sex drive. My dick went in the dirt on tren and no amount of test could help it.

Again, I have done many EQ based cycles without test and my immune system is fine. I haven't had the flu in years, and never while on cycle. Moot point however, because there is never zero test in our system, and other compounds could do fine in support of our immmune system.

Hope that helps...

Just not true, your saying that on a test/tren combo you'll still be producing???

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Just not true, your saying that on a test/tren combo you'll still be producing???

Yes. True.