LMAO @ the UK

[Undercover]

your an idiot, we dont hate other peoples cultures, we just dont like them trying to force it on us, or change ours.... wake up!!!

You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.

The Runnymede report identified eight perceptions related to Islamophobia:

1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2. It is seen as separate and "other." It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3. It is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
4. It is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
5. It is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
6. Criticisms made of "the West" by Muslims are rejected out of hand.
7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal

Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

[thegodfather]

You're generalizing because you're islamophobic looking for excuses to hate Muslims.

Tell me, how many Muslims do you know? Nobody is trying to force beliefs on you. There are bigots in every culture, and you sir are one of them.



Yup, that pretty much covers you both (and a few other idiots) that posted in this thread.

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

[Undercover]

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

Perceptions of Islamophobia were in my last post (they don't include overuse of petty insults).

Islamophobia is just a newly coined term for islamic culture-specific xenophobia. Just because they have a term for it now doesn't mean it's 'those damn liberals' who did it, and it certainly doesn't make it any less real..xenophobia isn't made up. So, I don't see why you're pissed with me using the term.

For the second bolded part, you have to read what I said in the thread. Never claimed immigrants shouldn't adapt, actually I said the exact opposite and made some pretty good points that they seemed to ignore.

I never doubted certain immigrants have trouble integrating; it's only natural. Generalizations and 'demonization' of immigrants is not helping though. I don't know of any Muslim that cringes when he heards the word 'pig'.

Degratory remarks? So you think someone who supports the BNP and thinks all immigrants should be eradicated isn't a bigot? If you think I used the word 'bigot' to strengthen my argument, you're way off. Do me a favor and read my thread. I only said I wouldn't argue anymore because I kept getting the same bigotry over and over. That is, after all, the definition of a bigot.

Good post GodFather.

Undercover....are you surreptitiously BuffedGuy? He used to throw around that Islmaphobe crap all the time, too.

No, don't know the guy.

Would you be happy if I start using "islam-specific xenophobia" instead? You guys are funny.

[MuscleScience]

So if they had not used derrogatory remarks then they would not be guilty of 'islamophobia'. That's a funny word, sounds like something liberals invented. Kinda like the neo-cons that invented "Islamofascistextremism." That's another bullshit word.

I don't see anything wrong with saying that immigrant cultures should assimilate into the culture of the land they're living in. The most notable aggravation would be those that fail to learn the language. I certainly don't think Americans should ever have to "Push 1 for English." There was in fact a prominent article about how Mexican immigrants are vehemently against assimilating as a whole. I am just weary of labeling people as you have done above, because often it turns into "I'm calling you a name because I dont agree with your politics/position/policy." For instance, Neo-cons calling people who disagree with foreign wars "unamerican," and liberals labeling people who oppose Barack Obama as President as "racists & bigots."

I personally don't like to use derogatory remarks when engaging in an argument, it makes the argument much less credible. However, there is certainly documented evidence of immigrant cultures resisting assimilation in their new home country, and that is definitely a problem.

Yeah look at the white immigrants that the Mexican Government let move freely and without restrictions into Texas. That didnt turn out so well for Mexico, prime example of what can happens if a new population does not assimilate.