Pct helpppp and extrogen control during cycle

[lonelysoldier1988]

Im having a hard time with estrogen control and pct still. Ive been reading like a mad man for a few weeks now and still havent got a grasp on it can someone simplify it in a few words. And explain what the best way to approach it?

im going to tell u what Ive learned and im totally off base please say something.

My cycle is standard: 1-12 500mg TEST E/Week -- 1-4 D-BOL 40mg/Day

Cycle Weeks 1-12: .25 letro 10-20mg Nolva --- thoughts on B6? and should I implement?

How many weeks before I start my PCT? Ive heard 1 2 none?

1-2 weeks no AS: 10-20 Nolva --- B6?

1-4 clomid therapy... Any suggestions on this? Ive heard bad things about 300mg day 1 is this true?

OK THANK YOU!!

[lonelysoldier1988]

And I might have enough money to add anavar instead if dbol, if I do is it ok to run anavar for 4 the first 4 and come off?

[c-Z]

This shit is a mess bro.....

First off ide much rather run adex over letro. Letro wipes estrogen... Adex has always worked awesome for me.

Secondly... You should know your PCT start time and all that good stuff prior to jumping on a cycle....... Test E is 2 weeks after last injection start. Hopefully you havent started yet. It is smart to get it all then jump on cycle.

For pct i would say run a combo of clomid at 100/50/50/50 and nolva at 40/20/20/20

[c-Z]

And I might have enough money to add anavar instead if dbol, if I do is it ok to run anavar for 4 the first 4 and come off?

Pends on the goals..... You won't swell up on anavar like you will dbol... But I have never ran anavar... But really it depends on what your goals are....

[lonelysoldier1988]

not starting till i know everything and I say this shit in my sleep looking at 2 months b4 I start enough time to study and gain knowledge, I know experience is everything but I want to be like Einstein when it comes to this.

[c-Z]

not starting till i know everything and I say this shit in my sleep looking at 2 months b4 I start enough time to study and gain knowledge, I know experience is everything but I want to be like Einstein when it comes to this.

Smart man... About time someone wants to take care of their body before shoving drugs into it without knowing anything......

If you haven;t gotten any AI yet.. Ide try adex first over letro as stated bro.

PCT is all very similiar.... Nolva and clomid

[lonelysoldier1988]

My goals are to gain mass, im allready thick and muscular just have body fat. I work construction and train 3 days a week on a clean diet 5 days a week. I dont calorie count natrually, but now I am. I just bought a scale and BF% thing from herbal life. Ill be like monk when it comes to my food.

I could post my diet I have a few questions, and its not getting the help in the diet section?

[lonelysoldier1988]

ooo I forgot i wanted to ask you this.. I train natrually like I stated just for stress release havent really reached my true potential because im italian and love my pastas and pizza haahaha so 4 years in colledge I ate like a 10 year old.

But im a professional now time to start treating my body to health and stability with that aside my question

when I train natrually, my nipples hurt off an on is this an early sign I should def run blockers?

k sorry for no periods

[lonelysoldier1988]

And I just won a poker tourney at borgata, so I have an extra 10k in my life right now. Gonna put it all into my body, haha not drugs mainly expensive proteins and stuff. Alot more high end fish and organic stuff, man im excited to look like a gladiator.

But im also excited to go through the process, its not the results its the journey thats how I felt about school and now with health.

Feel like this will be my life style till im laid to rest.

[Dancer]

I think C-Z nailed it.

The only addy I like to make is if you have the funds buy HCG, IMHO it works better than clomid.

If you are one of those that is really sensative to estrogen then clomid might make you emotional...imho

[c-Z]

I've never ran hcg.... But I see many that will not run it in PCT. They usually run hcg during their cycle and run nolva with clomid during pct..

Heres a link to similiar question with hcg
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=400399

[sizerp]

If you have sore nipples. Do you have hardened lumps? Or just soreness and tenderness? If the later of the two... Start dosing Nolvadex at 40mg ED until it subsides, or after a couple weeks if there's no change. Consult a Dr.

Also for on cycle. I wouldn't recommend stacking A-dex and Nolva as the use of A-dex downplays the effects of Nolva. Just use A-dex to combat the estro levels, then run Nolva and Toremifene or Clomid in PCT.

I would second the use of HCG during cycle to prevent shrinkage. Maybe weeks 5-10 or so.

[Dancer]

/\ +2...

if one can afford it running on cycle is a good way to go.

If not then during PCT its also good.

I do think HMB is a better drug PCT, IMHO, but the cost/availability is a factor.

[c-Z]

Good call sizerp. I agree with not using adex and nolva together... you could try the adex ed and if see no results jump onto the nolvadex.

[lonelysoldier1988]

But with that aside what is the optimum estrogen blocker and pct?

could you lay it out so I can research

[sizerp]

I would use a combination of SERM's in PCT, Toremifene and Tamoxifen Citrate.