Year 2012, The End

[Flagg]

They did not, where did you read that fake info.
Probably, since they just disappeared, they were coming from another planet (this would explain their vast and unique knowledge) and simply there they returned.

Again are you sure you have your facts right? The Spaniards didn't reach South America till around the late 15th century, but 400 years prior to that the Mayan Civilisation took a massive hit. Drought and over-population being the two biggest factors and naturally with a massive population comes the fact that sooner or later you are going to consume at a faster rate than you can produce, so in some ways the Mayans did contribute to their own demise during the classical period.

EDIT: I've also just read that you think they returned to their "home world", and yet you ask everyone to stick to the historical facts. Well as interesting as that might be that they returned to some other planet, where is YOUR EVIDENCE of this? And why didn't they use their superior technology to save them during the 1000AD endemic and when the Spaniards arrived?

[BJJ]

Again are you sure you have your facts right? The Spaniards didn't reach South America till around the late 15th century, but 400 years prior to that the Mayan Civilisation took a massive hit. Drought and over-population being the two biggest factors and naturally with a massive population comes the fact that sooner or later you are going to consume at a faster rate than you can produce, so in some ways the Mayans did contribute to their own demise during the classical period.

EDIT: I've also just read that you think they returned to their "home world", and yet you ask everyone to stick to the historical facts. Well as interesting as that might be that they returned to some other planet, where is YOUR EVIDENCE of this? And why didn't they use their superior technology to save them during the 1000AD endemic and when the Spaniards arrived?

I used the word "probably" talking about going back on their own planet and was not writing in an imperative way, as you did.
That's what I wanted to mean regarding historical facts, using imperative only with facts recognized by our present knowledge.

Furthermore, your facts are reported on some historical books made to rule and dominate the common thinking.
If you have the time to research deeper, you'll discover other books, less popular but with logical evidences. This books are not welcome in any schools in any countries.
After all, it is like if you were saying that Cristoforo Colombo discovered the American continent...

[Flagg]

The thing is BJJ, it's got to the stage now that someones version of events are going to vary from someone elses. So who do you believe? The guy who's versions are mostly tied to your own belief system. Im not ruling out aliens and the like, but there is no evidence at all of extra terrestrial involvement in the collapse of the Mayan Civilisation, so it makes sense to draw on more natural and anthropogenic causes.

[BJJ]

The thing is BJJ, it's got to the stage now that someones version of events are going to vary from someone elses. that's not possible. facts cannot be different since history took place only once and in one way only. so, if different people have different versions, either all are wrong and no-one really knows what happened or at least one is right.So who do you believe? The guy who's versions are mostly tied to your own belief system. Im not ruling out aliens and the like, but there is no evidence at all of extra terrestrial involvement in the collapse of the Mayan Civilisation, so it makes sense to draw on more natural and anthropogenic causes. they did not collapse, probably simply they left and with them also the golden age disappeared. natural and anthropogenic causes do not apply with them because, as you may surely know, they suddenly disappeared from the night before to the morning after!!!

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[Flagg]

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Where is your evidence of this?! The Mayan Civilisation literally did not dissapear over night! I would love to know the historical scholar that claims this!

[DarnGoodLookin]

It's not true. The world ins't going to end in 2012. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm from the future...

[Skippa]

It's not true. The world ins't going to end in 2012. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm from the future...

Ohhh!!!! Thanks for that bud , it makes me feel soo much better....

Oh btw u got any proof u from the future????? Like tomorrow nights lotto numbers?????

Thanks bro just PM me

[BJJ]

It's not true. The world ins't going to end in 2012. Sorry to burst your bubble. I'm from the future...

could you pls tell me the price of jpm in 2025?
thank you.

[BJJ]

Where is your evidence of this?! The Mayan Civilisation literally did not dissapear over night! I would love to know the historical scholar that claims this!

I do not know historical scholars...

[Flagg]

I do not know historical scholars...

BJJ i enjoy debating with you but im forced to agree with Mooseman on this, to suggest that the Mayan Civilisation dissapeared over night because they returned home to another planet is extremely far-fetched. I'd like to know where you draw your conclusions from this on. Also, what if nothing happens in 2012? Will it change what you believe in?