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[Kratos]

In spite of vs Despite
In spite of - used to express the idea of contrast.

A). In spite of - is used as a preposition. In spite of + noun means almost same as although + clause.

e.g - We went out in spite of the rain. ( = .... although it was raining.)

B). In spite of is the opposite of because of

e.g - She passed her exams in spite of her teacher. => (She had a bad teacher)

She passed her exams because of her teacher. => (She had a good teacher).

C). In spite of cannot be followed directly by a that - clause. Instead we can use in spite of the fact that

e.g - He is a good company in spite of the fact that he talks all the time.

Note - In formal English, despite can be used in the same way as in spite of.
Sita went on working in spite of feeling unwell.-- Correct
Sita went on working despite feeling unwell.-- Correct


http://gmat-grammar.blogspot.com/200...s-despite.html

[TITANIUM]

in the form I'm using the term "in spite of" what I mean is "without regard for," it's an acceptable use of the term. What I mean is Obama being elected without regard for his race, that is what I and I think you would want. And he was elected proving the stats unfounded.

We didn't have an obligation to elect him because of his skin color, that's what I was objecting to. Skin color should dictate obligation of votes.

But that is exactly what happened.

Good or bad, that is a fact.

We witnessed the first presidential election based on skin color.

It was pivotal to the blacks that this happen, it seemed.

Random interviews of blacks, asked on the streets, "why are you voting for Obama"?

There answer was, "because he's black".

Then asked again, "what political reasons are you voting for him"?

Replies, "I don't know, but he's to be the first black president".

Interesting.

Now, don't go taking this out of context.

I'm just stating the facts that turned up on random interviews on the streets of the U.S.


With out the black, minority, and younger white voters, his campaign and election would have failed.

As far as McCain goes, the Republicans completely dropped the ball.IMO.

It's almost appears that they knew they couldn't win the election, and gave up.

Again, interesting.


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[BgMc31]

But that is exactly what happened.

Good or bad, that is a fact.

We witnessed the first presidential election based on skin color.

It was pivotal to the blacks that this happen, it seemed.

Random interviews of blacks, asked on the streets, "why are you voting for Obama"?

There answer was, "because he's black".

Then asked again, "what political reasons are you voting for him"?

Replies, "I don't know, but he's to be the first black president".Interesting.

Now, don't go taking this out of context.

I'm just stating the facts that turned up on random interviews on the streets of the U.S.


With out the black, minority, and younger white voters, his campaign and election would have failed.

As far as McCain goes, the Republicans completely dropped the ball.IMO.

It's almost appears that they knew they couldn't win the election, and gave up.

Again, interesting.


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It seems that every anti-Obama person tends to point out these interviews with uneducated blacks...I find that very interesting, considering I can find just as many interview with bigoted whites saying I won't vote for Obama because he's black. There was ignorance on both sides. But like I said before Obama garnered more white vote than any other white democrat since JFK, so to say his election was won based on skin color is not true. It may have played a role, but there were just as many people (if not more) voting against Obama because of his skin color than because of it.

...Interesting!!!

[TITANIUM]

It seems that every anti-Obama person tends to point out these interviews with uneducated blacks...I find that very interesting, considering I can find just as many interview with bigoted whites saying I won't vote for Obama because he's black. There was ignorance on both sides. But like I said before Obama garnered more white vote than any other white democrat since JFK, so to say his election was won based on skin color is not true. It may have played a role, but there were just as many people (if not more) voting against Obama because of his skin color than because of it.

...Interesting!!!

BgMc, that's not what I was saying. Alot of educated blacks and whites voted for him.

I was just pointing out "why" alot of them did. That's all.

And yes, alot of whites did vote for him, but they are also classified in the "hope and change" category in wich so many people voted into.

Listen, I'm not knocking anybody here, you know that.

The fact that there was a record number of blacks that never even voted before, (public record),voted on the color of his skin.

Same as alot of whites did.

I guess I have to walk real careful when I post such things.

It comes across as myself being racist, when if fact I'm not.

But, It seems that way because I'm pointing it out.

On both sides of the isle.

I think that Obama got elected because of his skin color.

And that's all.It's not to say that it wasn't a positive thing to do for the people that still think, or practice, that blacks are unequal in todays society.


Obama is a very educated, captivating speaker,and that helped him out also.

I talked to alot of people on this matter. And they said that,on top of liking the way he speaks, they voted for him "ONLY", due to the fact that he comes from a so called, suppressed people.

So, it was his time I guess.

There are many here that do not understand what you and I see and comprehend out of all of this.

More so yourself, because of the fact that you find yourself more susceptible to it because of your ethnic diversed background.

I understand this.

But, I think that, with all things considered, that if Obama had been a white candidate, saying the same things, he would not have won the presidency.

That is not a racial remark at all.

After what the Busch administration put us through, I.E.=Patriot act, it was a easy choice for the democratic party to get there teeth into and make advancements.

The democrats blame the mess on the Busch administration.

Which was a disaster at best. So a republican couldn't even make it across the door step of the white house.

(yeah, I know.I can't get the Patriot Act thing out of my head).

I think that is why you keep hitting opposition with this guy.

If he wasn't black, and you knew what you know now, would you have still voted for him now?

Interesting.....

I think you have people on this forum that hate Obama.

But it gets turned into a black racist thing, when it's not.

Then when you defend him, it goes to crap.

I haven't really seen that much racist remarks on this forum.

(At least from any "EDUCATED MEMBERS").

I'm typing this between sets, so I hope It is coming out making atleast half way sense.

Peace

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[gixxerboy1]

It seems that every anti-Obama person tends to point out these interviews with uneducated blacks...I find that very interesting, considering I can find just as many interview with bigoted whites saying I won't vote for Obama because he's black. There was ignorance on both sides. But like I said before Obama garnered more white vote than any other white democrat since JFK, so to say his election was won based on skin color is not true. It may have played a role, but there were just as many people (if not more) voting against Obama because of his skin color than because of it.

...Interesting!!!

I agree. But i think its just as wrong to vote for someone based on color as is against them

[thegodfather]

It seems that every anti-Obama person tends to point out these interviews with uneducated blacks...I find that very interesting, considering I can find just as many interview with bigoted whites saying I won't vote for Obama because he's black. There was ignorance on both sides. But like I said before Obama garnered more white vote than any other white democrat since JFK, so to say his election was won based on skin color is not true. It may have played a role, but there were just as many people (if not more) voting against Obama because of his skin color than because of it.

...Interesting!!!

I really don't think that either one of those factors played a SIGNIFICANT role in the election. The amount of blacks voting for Obama because he is black, and the amount of whites voting for Obama because they felt "white guilt," I believe to be marginal in this election.

The real factors were, we had a failed regime of 8 years, in one of the worst economies since the 1930s. The Republicans failed to deliver on any of their promises, and Democrats capitalized on this opportunity. More people turned out to vote, period, on both sides of the aisle. The large MAJORITY of people who voted for either John McCain or Barack Obama are simply partisan voters who vote by party lines 99% of the time. It was easy to see this coming with the Democrats taking back control of the House in 2006.

Statements like, "A lot of people voted for Barack Obama just because he is black," are so unfounded and not based on fact or reality at all. There were certainly people who did just that, but not "A lot" of them. That's not even a statistic, just an arbitrary objective viewpoint of an unknown quantity. The fact remains that the majority of the votes were by party lines, and then all your other bullshit reasons come second. The biggest exploitation of the race issue came from the Democrats in this election, in my personal opinion, and it continues to be used by the Democrats to quell dissent against their collectivist agenda.

In either case, videos such as this one are certainly very disturbing. I don't recall the kind of idolization of cult like following behind any previous President. The President under the original interpretation of the Constitution has a very limited role in the government, and is the Commander-in-Chief of the MILITARY only. Not the economy, the environment, or any other number of things people think the President should be deciding policy over. If this current President believed in strict construction of the Constitution that he claims to, he would start relinquishing much of the power grab started under Bush, but that's not likely to happen. The truth is that the only thing that has "Changed" in Washington has been the faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl...layer_embedded

[TITANIUM]

I really don't think that either one of those factors played a SIGNIFICANT role in the election. The amount of blacks voting for Obama because he is black, and the amount of whites voting for Obama because they felt "white guilt," I believe to be marginal in this election.

The real factors were, we had a failed regime of 8 years, in one of the worst economies since the 1930s. The Republicans failed to deliver on any of their promises, and Democrats capitalized on this opportunity. More people turned out to vote, period, on both sides of the aisle. The large MAJORITY of people who voted for either John McCain or Barack Obama are simply partisan voters who vote by party lines 99% of the time. It was easy to see this coming with the Democrats taking back control of the House in 2006.

Statements like, "A lot of people voted for Barack Obama just because he is black," are so unfounded and not based on fact or reality at all. There were certainly people who did just that, but not "A lot" of them. That's not even a statistic, just an arbitrary objective viewpoint of an unknown quantity. The fact remains that the majority of the votes were by party lines, and then all your other bullshit reasons come second. The biggest exploitation of the race issue came from the Democrats in this election, in my personal opinion, and it continues to be used by the Democrats to quell dissent against their collectivist agenda.

In either case, videos such as this one are certainly very disturbing. I don't recall the kind of idolization of cult like following behind any previous President.The President under the original interpretation of the Constitution has a very limited role in the government, and is the Commander-in-Chief of the MILITARY only. Not the economy, the environment, or any other number of things people think the President should be deciding policy over. If this current President believed in strict construction of the Constitution that he claims to, he would start relinquishing much of the power grab started under Bush, but that's not likely to happen. The truth is that the only thing that has "Changed" in Washington has been the faces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl...layer_embedded

I concur with this.

And statistics are like toilet paper.

This video is quite disturbing to myself.

"Brainwashing Effect" of tomorrows youth.

"FVCKING BULLSHIT"!!!

This is the type of racism that tries to circumvent the normal routes that are usually taken to promote such agendas.

Again, it's NOT a black card that I am pulling out of my sleeve.

But, the Democrats did capitalize on it.

That's all this post was originally about.

People that do not agree with the current administration.

That's it.

But, here again, every time I post anything negative about this "OBAMA" guy, it gets turned into a black racist issue.

It's NOT!

If Busch was in office still, I would be bitching about the shit that he was pulling.

So, can we get over this suppressed black man controversy and move on.

Let's try this, let's pretend that Obama is "white".

He is half white anyways, right?

And then we maybe can concentrate on the political points that need to be addressed.

Not this bullshit race crap that keeps popping up.

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[Flagg]

I concur with this.

And statistics are like toilet paper.

This video is quite disturbing to myself.

"Brainwashing Effect" of tomorrows youth.

"FVCKING BULLSHIT"!!!

This is the type of racism that tries to circumvent the normal routes that are usually taken to promote such agendas.

Again, it's NOT a black card that I am pulling out of my sleeve.

But, the Democrats did capitalize on it.

That's all this post was originally about.

People that do not agree with the current administration.

That's it.

But, here again, every time I post anything negative about this "OBAMA" guy, it gets turned into a black racist issue.

It's NOT!

If Busch was in office still, I would be bitching about the shit that he was pulling.

So, can we get over this suppressed black man controversy and move on.

Let's try this, let's pretend that Obama is "white".

He is half white anyways, right?

And then we maybe can concentrate on the political points that need to be addressed.

Not this bullshit race crap that keeps popping up.

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The Bush Administration failed. This should tell people something. Time will tell how the Obama administration will deal with the Two Wars, the Healthcare Crisis, the Economic Crisis and the Climate Crisis, but that's a tall order for any president to deal with. Yet what will happen when everyone is tired of Obama? They'll switch back to the Republican choice. 8 years later they'll switch back to the Democratic choice. And so on.

You know it wouldn't have made a huge difference if the Democratic choice was white. People don't vote for who they want in, they vote against who they don't want in. Look at McCains running mate, she was not only ridiculous but outright insulting to the intelligence of the American people. The Republicans really shot themselves in the foot by picking her.

[TITANIUM]

The Bush Administration failed. This should tell people something. Time will tell how the Obama administration will deal with the Two Wars, the Healthcare Crisis, the Economic Crisis and the Climate Crisis, but that's a tall order for any president to deal with. Yet what will happen when everyone is tired of Obama? They'll switch back to the Republican choice. 8 years later they'll switch back to the Democratic choice. And so on.

You know it wouldn't have made a huge difference if the Democratic choice was white. People don't vote for who they want in, they vote against who they don't want in. Look at McCains running mate, she was not only ridiculous but outright insulting to the intelligence of the American people. The Republicans really shot themselves in the foot by picking her.

Now, this is a good post^^^^!

We can now move on to the real problem with this administration, or any previous or future one.

Let's see how long that this thread takes to revert back to a "black man in office" subject of discussion.

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[TITANIUM]

]The Bush Administration failed[/COLOR]. This should tell people something. Time will tell how the Obama administration will deal with the Two Wars, the Healthcare Crisis, the Economic Crisis and the Climate Crisis, but that's a tall order for any president to deal with. Yet what will happen when everyone is tired of Obama? They'll switch back to the Republican choice. 8 years later they'll switch back to the Democratic choice. And so on.

You know it wouldn't have made a huge difference if the Democratic choice was white. People don't vote for who they want in, they vote against who they don't want in. Look at McCains running mate, she was not only ridiculous but outright insulting to the intelligence of the American people. The Republicans really shot themselves in the foot by picking her.

1)Yes, dismally.

2)Yes, impossible odds.

3)Agreed, remember the "OO' option?

4)No, they blew one foot off, and then shot themselves in the other.


It never ceases to amaze me that no better candidates actually can run for office.

I think that it is probably due to the fact of campaign finances.

The one that spends the most money is "King Of The Castle".

I wouldn't want to be king of this FVCKING mess!!!

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[TITANIUM]

Now, this is a good post^^^^!

We can now move on to the real problem with this administration, or any previous or future one.

Let's see how long that this thread takes to revert back to a "black man in office" subject of discussion.

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Looks like this thread died off when I posted this.

Interesting...........


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[starkiller]

The Bush Administration failed. This should tell people something. Time will tell how the Obama administration will deal with the Two Wars, the Healthcare Crisis, the Economic Crisis and the Climate Crisis, but that's a tall order for any president to deal with. Yet what will happen when everyone is tired of Obama? They'll switch back to the Republican choice. 8 years later they'll switch back to the Democratic choice. And so on.

You know it wouldn't have made a huge difference if the Democratic choice was white. People don't vote for who they want in, they vote against who they don't want in. Look at McCains running mate, she was not only ridiculous but outright insulting to the intelligence of the American people. The Republicans really shot themselves in the foot by picking her.

Be careful what you say here, she maybe Americas next President.

[TITANIUM]

It would be Hillary Clinton VS Sarah Palin. I think that would we in interesting primary. Obama is Definitely a one termer, IMO. Biden, is a nobody, and will remain a nobody.
Maybe someone will run that will have a positive effect on things. But, this being the US, I think that my expectations are too high.

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[Flagg]

Be careful what you say here, she maybe Americas next President.

If the Republicans have an ounce of sense they wont use her ever again.

Then again, if the masses had an ounce of sense, they'd see that there are more than two choices when it comes to picking a new administration..

[TITANIUM]

If the Republicans have an ounce of sense they wont use her ever again.

Then again, if the masses had an ounce of sense, they'd see that there are more than two choices when it comes to picking a new administration..

Sad, but true.

That is one of the reasons I write on this forum. Intelligent people are found here.

I find it refreshing.

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