First Cycle - LOTS of questions!

[sickpuppydawg]

You dont need deca with your first run, stick with Test only and you can always kickstart it with dbol if you like but personally I would just stick iwth Test only, even low dose deca can cause you issues in recover and you dont want to be going through them on your first run.

Just Sust 500mg for 10 weeks? I think i should add D'bol for the initial thrust.
DAMN...Deca cost me the most out of the entire stack.

PCT remains the same here?

[marcus300]

Just Sust 500mg for 10 weeks? I think i should add D'bol for the initial thrust.
DAMN...Deca cost me the most out of the entire stack.

PCT remains the same here?

I think its a wise move to drop the deca and stick with a just Test only, deca can be hard to recover from and your better of seeing if you recover from test fine before you throw deca in the mix,,,, you can add a touch of dbol to kickstart the cycle if you like but i'd personally advice you to stick with one compound, your diet is the most important thing you can change because the diet you have is rubbish, you need to change it and stick with thatd iet for a few weeks before cycling, let your body adjust and improve then attack the cycle. PCT go for nolva 40/20/20/20 clomid 100/50/50/50 thats should be fine.

[warchild]

Just Sust 500mg for 10 weeks? I think i should add D'bol for the initial thrust.
DAMN...Deca cost me the most out of the entire stack.

PCT remains the same here?

id ditch the sus if you can and go with test c or test e

[dec11]

id ditch the sus if you can and go with test c or test e

i dont get the sust bashing, works well on me and several others i know, and personally i thought test e was shit in comparison, i knw test is test but im not the only one tht thinks this

[dec11]

Just Sust 500mg for 10 weeks? I think i should add D'bol for the initial thrust.
DAMN...Deca cost me the most out of the entire stack.

PCT remains the same here?

would b if you want ideal, shoot sust x2 a week, 3 days apart, so for instance, 250 on mon and 250 on thurs, take the dbol, wat ppl mean by just using test on its own is to see how you react, if you use mre than one compound 1st time out you wont knw wer any potiental sides are coming from. 1st cycle, sust. 2nd cycle, sust +dbol, 3rd sust, deca and dbol. get my drift?

[sickpuppydawg]

would b if you want ideal, shoot sust x2 a week, 3 days apart, so for instance, 250 on mon and 250 on thurs, take the dbol, wat ppl mean by just using test on its own is to see how you react, if you use mre than one compound 1st time out you wont knw wer any potiental sides are coming from. 1st cycle, sust. 2nd cycle, sust +dbol, 3rd sust, deca and dbol. get my drift?

LUCID! #WIN

okay...how far apart should one run the cycles? I know its a pointless question right now, but i ask since depending on the answer i shall have to dispose off the Deca or the D'bol if they have to be spaced far and wide.

[iron minded]

would b if you want ideal, shoot sust x2 a week, 3 days apart, so for instance, 250 on mon and 250 on thurs, take the dbol, wat ppl mean by just using test on its own is to see how you react, if you use mre than one compound 1st time out you wont knw wer any potiental sides are coming from. 1st cycle, sust. 2nd cycle, sust +dbol, 3rd sust, deca and dbol. Get my drift?

great advice..

[sickpuppydawg]

great advice..

This is a first cycle..so will go for test only.

[kaigab]

IMO starting your first cycle at same time with diet is a big mistake.

Kcal count is nice on chart, but in reality everyone is different and maybe you will discover that your new diet will add you fat or (most problably) won't add weight. and it's important to know this before and without AAS on body cause after you end your cycle (let's say it worked good), diet is the only thing you will have (provided training routine is ok) to keep the results (or part of the results).

if you don't "test" your diet first and without AAS, you will end up losing all what you gained while trying to fix it during PCT.

So an advice:
1) find a diet that you can keep for the whole year (and not just for the duration of the cycle)
2) try it without AAS and see how much weight you gain with that...then tune it. don't start AAS as long as you haven't found a diet which makes you gain 2-3 kg/month (without adding fat) otheriwse, 4 months from end of your cycle, you will be as now regardless of what you achieved on cycle
3) if it's your first cycle, i believe your gear is an overkill. you are light (67kg is really a few) and you have fresh receptors. Hell, just 30mg dbol will boost you big time (if diet is good). Personally i would just go dbol (20mg, eventually increasing it if you don't see results but you will see many results) + some test (300mg/week for long ester). you will gain a lot if you train and eat right.

[sickpuppydawg]

IMO starting your first cycle at same time with diet is a big mistake.

Kcal count is nice on chart, but in reality everyone is different and maybe you will discover that your new diet will add you fat or (most problably) won't add weight. and it's important to know this before and without AAS on body cause after you end your cycle (let's say it worked good), diet is the only thing you will have (provided training routine is ok) to keep the results (or part of the results).

if you don't "test" your diet first and without AAS, you will end up losing all what you gained while trying to fix it during PCT.

So an advice:
1) find a diet that you can keep for the whole year (and not just for the duration of the cycle)
2) try it without AAS and see how much weight you gain with that...then tune it. don't start AAS as long as you haven't found a diet which makes you gain 2-3 kg/month (without adding fat) otheriwse, 4 months from end of your cycle, you will be as now regardless of what you achieved on cycle
3) if it's your first cycle, i believe your gear is an overkill. you are light (67kg is really a few) and you have fresh receptors. Hell, just 30mg dbol will boost you big time (if diet is good). Personally i would just go dbol (20mg, eventually increasing it if you don't see results but you will see many results) + some test (300mg/week for long ester). you will gain a lot if you train and eat right.

If i were gaining 2-3 kgs a month of lean mass...do you even think i would have thought of this?
I gain...but along with a lot of fat. Hence.