I think this is a really good thread. Really!
But Id like to say that this is a addictive lifestyle more than anything cause the complete obbsession with this "Irongame" comes really fast and really before you start using steroids. I started training at 16 and it took like 6 months and I was consumed by it, steroids came into the picture 3 years later. Training, eating, sleeping everything you do all day long has a certain purpose when you live this lifestyle. Everything has a higher cuase. If u lose that, ofc ur gonna get deppressed whether you take steroids or not. So many guys I think dont have anything left if they have to stop taking steroids and thats what makes it so hard. I think the main criteria for doin this safely is distance.
Anyone agreeing with what Im saying?