Some advice needed

[kainwalker]

Hi guys, I have just arrived in US a couple of days ago, and I am not really a citizen here so HRT does not really apply to me.

I have been working out for around six years, and more seriously during the past three years. I notice my strength and weight has been very much 'steady' during the last half year or so despite heavy workout and protein intake, and therefore I am considering AAS.

One of the major reasons of this is because I understand my racial background doesn't have a very high test bio-availability.

Besides the usual side-effects, and cautions on frauds and stuff, what would you advise me on the way to AAS? Are there any known 'bad' channels here in LA? Thanks in advance.

I would really appreciate if anyone would give me some advice as I am starting new (AAS newbie), and I am starting in a new place from home.

FYI, I am going 25 soon.

[LeroyB]

Can you post your diet so we have a better idea of what your eating.
You height, weight, and body fat %.
Are you 24 years old?

[kainwalker]

Can you post your diet so we have a better idea of what your eating.
You height, weight, and body fat %.
Are you 24 years old?

Yes.
Usually just high protein diets -
A mixture of low carb vegetables
8~10 eggs without yolks (per day)
3-4 cups of whey protein shakes with fat-free milk
chicken breast, tuna, salmon
others are nuts, yogurt... etc.
I also consume around 1 bowl of rice per day.

height: 6'0"
weight: 180 lbs
body fat %: 8~12% varies

would I start on Test E alone or Test E + Dbol
and also prepare some Nolvadex for side effects?

[pwnflow]

Basic test only cycle is recommend. Either that or add eq(lean gains/cut) or dbol(kickstart oral) or deca(bulking). Yes keep nolva and add it if you experience gyno. Also use it for pct. I hope you already know the basic stuff. And better post a complete outline of your diet.

[LeroyB]

I vote TestE - simple 500mg a week shot @ 250 twice a week. Keep it simple. You will be overwhelmed by the results.

[kainwalker]

Basic test only cycle is recommend. Either that or add eq(lean gains/cut) or dbol(kickstart oral) or deca(bulking). Yes keep nolva and add it if you experience gyno. Also use it for pct. I hope you already know the basic stuff. And better post a complete outline of your diet.

I have read articles about AAS for quite a long time, and I quite understand how the first cycles are planned. At my weight and height, should I add dbol / deca? I understand that deca would really increase weight gain, and how does that compare with dbol?

And I assume most of you would agree with test E right? I heard test prop injections are painful and is not really good for first time injects.

About my diet, I learned from other posts that a high carb diet is also required, so here is what I am planning (please help advise and revise!):
Breakfast: Low-fat Yogurt with nuts, 4 eggs with 2 yolks, 1 piece of whole wheat bread
Lunch: 1 bowl of rice, 1 banana, tuna salad
Dinner: 1 bowl of rice, some meat (chicken breast / fish), low carb vegetables
In-between meals: protein shake (20g) or nuts as snacks

[pwnflow]

I have read articles about AAS for quite a long time, and I quite understand how the first cycles are planned. At my weight and height, should I add dbol / deca? I understand that deca would really increase weight gain, and how does that compare with dbol?

And I assume most of you would agree with test E right? I heard test prop injections are painful and is not really good for first time injects.

About my diet, I learned from other posts that a high carb diet is also required, so here is what I am planning (please help advise and revise!):
Breakfast: Low-fat Yogurt with nuts, 4 eggs with 2 yolks, 1 piece of whole wheat bread
Lunch: 1 bowl of rice, 1 banana, tuna salad
Dinner: 1 bowl of rice, some meat (chicken breast / fish), low carb vegetables
In-between meals: protein shake (20g) or nuts as snacks

Woah diet sucks bro. Even all the gear in the world won't work. Go to nutrition section and research. Better start counting cals and macros.

Prop is painful depending on which prop you have. Regardless prop is not for first cycle. Use test E or C. I would suggest deca as it's good for joints and not an oral, thus safer. But the thing is it will be about 4-5 week until you start really feeling the gear, that's why people use dbol for first 4-6 weeks to feel it working immediately. Not worth it IMO but it's your decision.

So better get the diet fixed first.

[kainwalker]

Woah diet sucks bro. Even all the gear in the world won't work. Go to nutrition section and research. Better start counting cals and macros.

Prop is painful depending on which prop you have. Regardless prop is not for first cycle. Use test E or C. I would suggest deca as it's good for joints and not an oral, thus safer. But the thing is it will be about 4-5 week until you start really feeling the gear, that's why people use dbol for first 4-6 weeks to feel it working immediately. Not worth it IMO but it's your decision.

So better get the diet fixed first.

I get from it I will need ~3950 calories to 'maintain' my body weight, and around a 500 extra would sustain a 1lb increase in weight every week, so how much shall I estimate my weight gain to be when on TestE + deca / TestE + dbol? I am at ~3950 because I do Muay Thai 2 ~ 3 times per week and cardio 4~5 times per week (i.e. MT or Cardio every day).

I will read up some sample diets and see what I can get at this campus in LA. A daily consumption of 540g protein, 320g carbs and 100g of fat (~4500 calories/day) will do, right? If so I can start planning my diet.
Or would you suggest more than 4500 calories/ day?

Besides, here is another problem. I am new to LA and I am new to AAS, so I am still figuring things out.

[pwnflow]

I get from it I will need ~3950 calories to 'maintain' my body weight, and around a 500 extra would sustain a 1lb increase in weight every week, so how much shall I estimate my weight gain to be when on TestE + deca / TestE + dbol? I am at ~3950 because I do Muay Thai 2 ~ 3 times per week and cardio 4~5 times per week (i.e. MT or Cardio every day).

I will read up some sample diets and see what I can get at this campus in LA. A daily consumption of 540g protein, 320g carbs and 100g of fat (~4500 calories/day) will do, right? If so I can start planning my diet.
Or would you suggest more than 4500 calories/ day?

Besides, here is another problem. I am new to LA and I am new to AAS, so I am still figuring things out.

Then why rush into it? Better settle down first and read about AAS. Read all stickys. Download and read ebooks about AAS. It's always better to research into a subject yourself and then ask question than to just follow what others are saying at it's face value.

And 20-30lbs gain is common is diet and training is nailed in. (not all will be muscle and not all will be retained.)

On the topic of diet I don't think you maintains cals is that high. We need to find you BMR. Use harris-benedict formula.

BMR = 66 + (13.7 x lean weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) - (6.8 x age)

Then multiply the BMR value with 1.6 (activity level, 1.8 if you train twice a day). That's the amt of cals you need to maintain you current body wt. Then I would suggest you increase that cals by 500 or decrease it by 500 depending on your goal. (In absence of chemical enhancement, need to be changed with gear.)

Also I think you already know to eat every 2-3hrs too and consumes a lot of water.

Also I would suggest to give a detailed out line of your training with how reps/sets/exercises/etc. and how man day a week do you lift weight.

[kainwalker]

Then why rush into it? Better settle down first and read about AAS. Read all stickys. Download and read ebooks about AAS. It's always better to research into a subject yourself and then ask question than to just follow what others are saying at it's face value.

And 20-30lbs gain is common is diet and training is nailed in. (not all will be muscle and not all will be retained.)

On the topic of diet I don't think you maintains cals is that high. We need to find you BMR. Use harris-benedict formula.

BMR = 66 + (13.7 x lean weight in kg) + (5 x height in cm) - (6.8 x age)

Then multiply the BMR value with 1.6 (activity level, 1.8 if you train twice a day). That's the amt of cals you need to maintain you current body wt. Then I would suggest you increase that cals by 500 or decrease it by 500 depending on your goal. (In absence of chemical enhancement, need to be changed with gear.)

Also I think you already know to eat every 2-3hrs too and consumes a lot of water.

Also I would suggest to give a detailed out line of your training with how reps/sets/exercises/etc. and how man day a week do you lift weight.

That is really helpful. My BMR is around 1815, and * 1.6 will be around 2904. Therefore around 3400~3500 cal per day will be enough for adding weight. As for the workout routine, I will check out the gym here tomorrow (I am new here =[) and plan what I can do.
Any hints / advice on how to identify potential gear sources?

[pwnflow]

That is really helpful. My BMR is around 1815, and * 1.6 will be around 2904. Therefore around 3400~3500 cal per day will be enough for adding weight. As for the workout routine, I will check out the gym here tomorrow (I am new here =[) and plan what I can do.
Any hints / advice on how to identify potential gear sources?

And keep protein 1-1.5g per lbs of bodyweight. (not enhanced) The carbs and fats are divided depending on your nutrition approach. (eg CkD, keto, carb cycling, cals cycling, etc). Research in that.

Vets can help you better with source checks. I myself am learning a lot about sources so I am in no position to give you advice on that. Since you asked advice on source it is possible you might get an pm from somebody. Please don't fall for that. This is a good sticky to start from.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=392484