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[awesome1]

Drinking a 17aa you only lose about 20% of it to the first pass (from what I've read and studies).
So its basically 80% as effective, plus you get increased IGF-1 levels.

I didn not know this. I was under the impression that it was the other way around on the %. Do you know where you got that info?

[Bonaparte]

I didn not know this. I was under the impression that it was the other way around on the %. Do you know where you got that info?

I think you read it wrong. I stated that injecting is more efficient (which seems obvious).

[awesome1]

I think you read it wrong. I stated that injecting is more efficient (which seems obvious).

I was saying that i thought that taking it orally is only 20% as effective and you lose about 80% from oral use, so i thought the difference was much more drastic than what you said.

[Bonaparte]

I was saying that i thought that taking it orally is only 20% as effective and you lose about 80% from oral use, so i thought the difference was much more drastic than what you said.

No, because it is 17aa you only lose a small portion in the first hepatic pass.