winny after test?

[wriggz]

ive just finished my second test and deca cycle.
only a mild cycle as i wasnt looking for DRAMATIC results..
i ran 1mg test cyproinate 1mg decca for 7weeks, then bumped the last 2weeks upto 1.5mg.

i was considering my pct when a freind ov mine recommended using Winstrol, instead?

saying that it will enable me to keep my gains, lose the water and even rip more fat after?
would this be wise??
id say 6weeks 50mg a day tabs?

i plan to do this at in 5days any help is apreciated. thankyou

[wriggz]

ive just finished my second test and deca cycle.
only a mild cycle as i wasnt looking for DRAMATIC results..
i ran 1mg test cyproinate 1mg decca for 7weeks, then bumped the last 2weeks upto 1.5mg.

i was considering my pct when a freind ov mine recommended using Winstrol, instead?

saying that it will enable me to keep my gains, lose the water and even rip more fat after?
would this be wise??
id say 6weeks 50mg a day tabs?

i plan to do this at in 5days any help is apreciated. thankyou

[Big]

slap your friend then ignore them from now on

[Knockout_Power]

i ran 1mg test cyproinate 1mg decca for 7weeks, then bumped the last 2weeks upto 1.5mg.

1.5mg or 1.5 g?

[Big]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat%?
years training?
planned pct?

[wriggz]

age 28
years training.. id say 4 on and off.. 2yrs seriously
height.. 6ft
weight.. 84kg
body fat.. 23%
pct... well im not ure to be honest this is why im asking??
i was just going to see how i went.. with the winny?
ha ha
but otherwise id say just train hard over the off period, high protein, balanced carb/fat meals + creatine
what will happen if i run the winstrol as i already have it here??
also what do would you do in my situation now??
i realise im only a beginner any help apreciated

[wriggz]

what would happen?
why is it a bad idea?
i know i probably sound dumb as **** right now ha ha
but if you dont ask you dont learn...

[Knockout_Power]

but if you dont ask you dont learn...

correction, if you dont research, you dont learn. Theres an entire steroid profiles section with all this info in it. All your questions will be answerred there.

[wriggz]

i honestly have looked through there and there is nothing on running winstrol after testosterone..

i wouldnt have asked otherwise??

[Big]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=404909

[wriggz]

and sorry not mg, g.

[Big]

i honestly have looked through there and there is nothing on running winstrol after testosterone..

i wouldnt have asked otherwise??

how long have you researched? I ran my first cycle 12 years after steroids were available to me. you haven't asked a single question that isn't answered time and again on this very site.

[wriggz]

geez man
i get it
i'm an amature lol
as i said i cant find the test (then) winstrol..
only about running them together?
im new to the site, find it hard to find the right things...
these forums go tend to go off subject a lot and i get lost.
i thought id ask your lots profesional advice,
i admit i have rushed things but my body looks quite good and id like to keep it like this.
and improve again through winter for summer again next year and so on.
i dont mean to offend or look lazy in anyway

[wriggz]

my aim is to be 90kg hardly anybody fat say 16%
ripped outve my head ha ha

[Big]

you should be below 15% before starting any cycle, to avoid estrogen related sides.

[bjpennnn]

hahaha 16% is not ripped outta your head.

[wriggz]

ha
well it would be for me, you guys are pros
my abs look good already at that bf% id be proud as fek ha ha

so i take it im not going to get any info then no?
just laughed at?

guess ill keep looking - cheers lads

[Big]

there is a wealth of info here, but we help those who help themselves. if you want to be spoon fed then no, this isn't the place for you. think of when you were in school, the teachers could have given you the answers to every test, you would have graduated with all A's, dumb as a stone. through research, you learn not only the subject at hand, but the related information that supports the subject. more important than knowing the right answer is knowing why the right answer is right. you have already started putting very strong chemicals into your body with no clue what you are doing. if a junky broke into a pharmacy, grabbed some vials at random, and started injecting himself I doubt you would support his decision.

[wriggz]

and i know that competition standard is like 5-10 percent body fat
but thats like total dedication i have my sons and a life also.
no offence..
i realise i shouldnt have posted this in the'question" in the 1st place

though i dont see why you can reply giving me shit and yet cant help or even point me in the right direction?

id've thought that this is the whole point? i dunno ha.

@BIG i ran anti -estrongens also??
if that helps?

[wriggz]

i realise i should'nt have posted this 'QUESTION' in the 1st place

[Big]

it was suggested you read the profiles, you said that you did and it didn't help. I just read the winny profile and it explains why you shouldn't use it without test. wouldn't that answer part of your question? you can get an attitude and leave, or stay and begin educating yourself and we will keep you pointed in the right direction.

[wriggz]

i will read this now..

[wriggz]

i mustv be stupid me serious
i just read the whole winstrol profile and didnt come across anything about it being used alone?
is it the joints drying out ect?
anyway i take it that winstrol is not the way to go now for me
please colud you point me down that CORRECT path
and i will research away?

[Big]

this is in the very first paragraph:

As with 99% of steroids, however, it´s important to note that suppression of your natural hormonal levels will occur (though perhaps not to the extent that it will with many other steroids).(10) As with running virtually any compound, testosterone supplementation (i.e. running test in a cycle containing Winstrol) is warranted to avoid possible sexual dysfunction.

[wriggz]

re-read it!!
omg!
sexual disfunction???
=/
i wont be using that alone then hahaha
perhaps running a low test base then??
or have i now been on them to long??

[wriggz]

and thanx just caught that!!
phew
glad i did

[Big]

I would recommend stopping and running a full pct. you should head to the diet section and list your diet in detail for possible tweaking, and do the same in the workout section with your routine, perfect those while recovering from your cycle and planning the next.

[wriggz]

ok then that is what i will do

thanks for the help

[wriggz]

one more thing before i go...

how long shall i leave it before the next cycle?

[Big]

we generally recommend time on cycle + pct time = time off, but the best idea is to get bloodwork a month or so after pct to see how you are recovering.
what do you have in mind for pct?

[wriggz]

and so far ive learnt that nolvadex is a good idea?

[wriggz]

see now it goes on to say i should take hgc and aromasin??

ha ha this is confusing??

what would you recomend?

[Big]

I like nolva and clomid
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

when you see a pct listed the way, it would mean to take the nolva 40mg per day, every day, for week 1, then 20mg per day, every day, for weeks 2,3, and 4, and so on with the clomid.
there are many different ideas for pct, and there is no one right answer, so spend some time reading and form your own opinions.

[wriggz]

confused.com =/ =/

[wriggz]

but thanks i will

[Big]

don't get discouraged, get used to our "tough love" approach and we'll get you where you want to go

[wriggz]

you seem to know what youre talking about so i think ill go with your idea
do these for 4month then the blood test
and i should be able to begin a new cycle??

i think i will add the winstrol to my next cycle.. and up the test dosage..??

anyway best see if i can grab these nolva and clomid now form the gym

[wriggz]

FROM the gym

[Big]

pct will be 4 weeks, if you can't score at the gym the upper right banner has good legit chems
http://www.ar-r.com/

[wriggz]

sorry 4 weeks lol