winny for speed and endurance ?

[mohawkman]

i have cycled for about 6 years and was trying to help my 22 year old son with his first cycle . he is a college soccer athelete trying to go pro. so his goals are very different from mine , he is trying to improve speed and endurance . i wasthinking 500 mg a week of test e for 10 weeks and 300 mg of winstroll a week for 9 weeks followed by post cycle theropy any advice would be appreciated

[Necrosaro]

300MGs of Winstrol?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Is that an error?

[LatissimusaurousRex]

Most people on this forum will advise you to wait til your son is older.

[Vullfromsc]

i have cycled for about 6 years and was trying to help my 22 year old son with his first cycle . he is a college soccer athelete trying to go pro. so his goals are very different from mine , he is trying to improve speed and endurance . i wasthinking 500 mg a week of test e for 10 weeks and 300 mg of winstroll a week for 9 weeks followed by post cycle theropy any advice would be appreciated

speed: Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold metal AND world record in the 100 meter dash after testing positive for winstrol in 1988.. so winstrol for speed obviously

endurance: anything that increases red blood cell count (testosterone)

300mg of winny PER WEEK is a little low, try at least 350mg PER WEEK imo for the last 4 weeks only. it is too liver toxic to run longer, especially for a 22 yr old

[mohawkman]

how old should he be and should he run the winny the first four weeks of his cycle or the last four thanks

[Devil's_Advocate]

Shold be at least 24, to ensure endocrine system is fully established. Last four weeks. Though through all this, I must say, if it is going to take aas to achieve his goals, and he is only 22, then maybe he doesn't have the potential to get there?
not being a prick, just wondering if he couldnt do with more perserverence and mental drive.

[panntastic]

he is only 22, then maybe he doesn't have the potential to get there?
not being a prick, just wondering if he couldnt do with more perserverence and mental drive.

^^^^^^ maybe hes onto something and doesnt winny give people joint problems? probably not the best for a 22yo tell hime to train harder rather than thinking aas is the answer

[Charger527]

Id personally keep him away from test e, if you are going to run test id only have it as prop, id run test at 30mg ed and winny at 60mg ed injected together.

But honestly like from what i know about football (which isnt much) i cant really see it doing that much to make you a better player, i mean it could make you faster, though it could also take away your agility, never lone the other side effects you could get.

Why not start on some B12 at 1mg ed to increase red blood cells, a solid diet, and some good old hard work???

[silverback11]

i knew a guy that used winny to get faster for football in college, it did do the trick he went from a 4.8 to a 4.43 in about a month to month and a half he was still agile as hell too

[mohawkman]

^^^^^^ maybe hes onto something and doesnt winny give people joint problems? probably not the best for a 22yo tell hime to train harder rather than thinking aas is the answer

thats funny and you are juicing why ? because you were able to meet your goals naturally without the help of anabolics, doesnt that go for all of us ?

[Charger527]

i knew a guy that used winny to get faster for football in college, it did do the trick he went from a 4.8 to a 4.43 in about a month to month and a half he was still agile as hell too

Was he running test with it? I know a few sports people who have good results running winny by iteslf.


To OP its really up to your son if he wants to jump on the gear wagon, if he thinks it will get him there, though once he is there im assuming he will have to stop due to testing??

[silverback11]

Was he running test with it? I know a few sports people who have good results running winny by iteslf.


To OP its really up to your son if he wants to jump on the gear wagon, if he thinks it will get him there, though once he is there im assuming he will have to stop due to testing??

i actually don't know if he was using test as well he just told me about the winny