please help posted twice

[riddick1059]

yeah I was on t-4 meds at the time... I didn't know if an estrogen test was done... I know. So what do you all think about me trying 10 mg of nolvadex. to see how my body acts over a period of about 2-6 months? (i'm trying to do something to show my wife and my doc hey look) then my doc might be willing to say ok the only things you have done was change this ?

The hdl has always been low I was running 6 days a week when that test was taken made me injury prone. that's another reason i was thinking estrogen might help.

From what I read on here it may help with ldl and hdl.... my ldl normally runs higher than that. I see my normal doc about every 3 months. The doc I went to (2hr drive) I promised my wife I wouldn't go back to if she would show more support. The wife says she was just taking my money. Trust me I love my wife but she don't think a pills helps anything.

Also at the time i was not taking Test. or Dhea nor Creatine... even my doc asked he said "most bodybuilders would kill to have testosterone that high" He even asked if i ate liquorish. I hate liquorish. But the test he did showed my testosterone at 2.5 i believe. I did start back taking creatine on my workout days while working out after he asked that question and dhea. I stopped taking the thyroid-s about two weeks ago heart rate got up to about 65bpm and body temp stayed at around 96 - 96.8 basal.

I really need some support guys will taking 10 mg of nolvadex a day hurt even if my body didn't need it or maybe some other AI? I know lots of people on here against self medicating. I'm not some 16 year old trying to get huge or improve in sports. I've always been all natural unless you count creatine and liver pills... just recently started researching this. Just trying to improve my general health.
Also no i don't have gyno.. I do have some chest fat over my muscle always have had some even when i was 160 lbs at 18 years old when i was in MMA.
The testosterone was a thought also. Like i tell my wife i know my body and something is off. I'm not looking for a magic pill looking to level the ground I'll do the hard work to get the fat off. Tired of eating right and working out to be going backwards. I workout and eat right to live good. I don't live to workout.
Sorry for the long repost just aggravated

let me put it like this
Hey guys thinking about running my FIRST CYCLE tell me what you think

First 12 weeks

250-300 mg/ml of Test. P a week
10 mg Nolv a day
For 12 weeks

that was not fair i know In all honesty the nolvadex or a good AI is what I'm more focused on.

[rmacgurn]

yeah I was on t-4 meds at the time... I didn't know if an estrogen test was done... I know. So what do you all think about me trying 10 mg of nolvadex. to see how my body acts over a period of about 2-6 months? (i'm trying to do something to show my wife and my doc hey look) then my doc might be willing to say ok the only things you have done was change this ?

The hdl has always been low I was running 6 days a week when that test was taken made me injury prone. that's another reason i was thinking estrogen might help.

From what I read on here it may help with ldl and hdl.... my ldl normally runs higher than that. I see my normal doc about every 3 months. The doc I went to (2hr drive) I promised my wife I wouldn't go back to if she would show more support. The wife says she was just taking my money. Trust me I love my wife but she don't think a pills helps anything.

Also at the time i was not taking Test. or Dhea nor Creatine... even my doc asked he said "most bodybuilders would kill to have testosterone that high" He even asked if i ate liquorish. I hate liquorish. But the test he did showed my testosterone at 2.5 i believe. I did start back taking creatine on my workout days while working out after he asked that question and dhea. I stopped taking the thyroid-s about two weeks ago heart rate got up to about 65bpm and body temp stayed at around 96 - 96.8 basal.

I really need some support guys will taking 10 mg of nolvadex a day hurt even if my body didn't need it or maybe some other AI? I know lots of people on here against self medicating. I'm not some 16 year old trying to get huge or improve in sports. I've always been all natural unless you count creatine and liver pills... just recently started researching this. Just trying to improve my general health.
Also no i don't have gyno.. I do have some chest fat over my muscle always have had some even when i was 160 lbs at 18 years old when i was in MMA.
The testosterone was a thought also. Like i tell my wife i know my body and something is off. I'm not looking for a magic pill looking to level the ground I'll do the hard work to get the fat off. Tired of eating right and working out to be going backwards. I workout and eat right to live good. I don't live to workout.
Sorry for the long repost just aggravated

let me put it like this
Hey guys thinking about running my FIRST CYCLE tell me what you think

First 12 weeks

250-300 mg/ml of Test. P a week
10 mg Nolv a day
For 12 weeks

that was not fair i know In all honesty the nolvadex or a good AI is what I'm more focused on.

Maybe its me, but i get the feeling we are beating around the bush here. you do not know your current estro levels and have never tested them, your T levels run ok to high, and your thyroid seems fine, but you want to take nolvadex. it is not an AI but an SERM, meaning it does not stop conversion of T to E. instead it has several effects since it competes with E for receptor binding it can prevent gyno when on high does of steroids that convert to E. It also can increase LH, FHS and Test levels (hence its use post cycle). And it can sometimes help with lipid profile. I say sometimes as i have not seen dramatic changes. AI's block conversion of test to E and will lower you total E2 levels, which may not be a good thing depending where they are now.

So again I ask why not test your E2 level and tell us again what you think you need nolva for? I lowered my ldl 100 points and added 6 pts to HDL in 4 weeks using niacin, polycosanol and aerobics.

IMO for a first cycle that would not be a good choice as you will be injecting ED or EOD better to use a longer ester T.