If you didnt "have to" run test, would you?

[Knockout_Power]

I was wondering this today, I dont typically run very high doses and I was wondering how much test actually does compared to the other compounds out there. It sure would save a lot of extra gear you need to pin while on a multi-compound cycle... so lets hear what you boys think, do you see a lot from the test you incorporate or do you just run it to keep us as men functioning properly?

[Nooomoto]

Love me some test! I sure as shit would. I typically run high doses of test and low doses of whatever other compounds I'm on.

My source had some combo vials that had test mixed with other stuff that I was looking into before I started my cycle. However, I couldn't find anyone with experience regarding the given combos so I opted to go without the combos, and just use the compounds separately. It would be real nice to not have my ass and quads completely covered in scar tissue, though.

[Swifto]

I love having an exogenous testosterone level!!

[Shinalynn]

I have been looking all thru this forum and I cant find a straight answer about the side effects of test...like what are they, and when do they start after you start a cycle?

[Nooomoto]

I have been looking all thru this forum and I cant find a straight answer about the side effects of test...like what are they, and when do they start after you start a cycle?

One of the biggest side effects is me being REALLY cool, starts about 8 days after first injection.

[Knockout_Power]

I have been looking all thru this forum and I cant find a straight answer about the side effects of test...like what are they, and when do they start after you start a cycle?

Shina, you mean specifically for a woman or in general?

[Shinalynn]

Men really..I need to figure some shit out.. :/

[Matt]

I have been looking all thru this forum and I cant find a straight answer about the side effects of test...like what are they, and when do they start after you start a cycle?

Its not a straight forward answer because everyone is different, therefore we all react differently....

I only ever run test e so it takes a few weeks before i see or feel any noticeable changes..

Those changes will be, sex drive, all of a sudden i want to hump anything that has a heart beat.. Its a strange feeling, I'll be out shopping and i even find myself looking at fat ugly chicks, i try and image having sex with them.. Its a bit like when you get drunk, we call it having beer goggles on...

The other effects are increased muscle and water weight. Ive also lost a few strands of head hair to test... I sleep better and feel better, more youthful..

Thats about it for me..

[Knockout_Power]

the sides tend to come in the elevated estrogen the body produces to balance out the extra test, also, with the exogenious test, the natural production shuts down so bringing it back online becomes an issue...

The estrogen is what leads to gyno, moods swings, acne, bloat etc... the stuff you hear as "sides"

[Knockout_Power]

And the one thing I would really like to emphasize is the way you feel so much better on test. The sens eof well-being is reported by most users.... thats when we are not raging out and killing our families and shooting at police and yelling at stop signs and beating up co-workers and foaming at the mouth... other than that, we are fine

[Shinalynn]

Thanks guys..I guess now its more of an issue of how I am going to deal with these sides..

[Knockout_Power]

Thanks guys..I guess now its more of an issue of how I am going to deal with these sides..

Im still a little confused, you mean from your man or yourself? It effects women differently.

[Shinalynn]

From my man..its hard to explain, but both of us have changed in the past month, and I wanted to know why.

[Hazard]

I know guys who have stopped running every other compound except test. The run high dosages..... upwards of 2000 mg's while blasting and drop it down to 250 to cruise.

I personally have never gone over 750mg's of test..... really only because I mainly use 4 sites for injections and when you combine test with tren and masteron..... you run out of space to inject.

~Haz~

[Knockout_Power]

I know guys who have stopped running every other compound except test. The run high dosages..... upwards of 2000 mg's while blasting and drop it down to 250 to cruise.

I personally have never gone over 750mg's of test..... really only because I mainly use 4 sites for injections and when you combine test with tren and masteron..... you run out of space to inject.

~Haz~

thats kind of where I was going with this thread... Im wondering if I stayed in the 250/wk range if I could start saving some of the pinning for other compounds that might work better for me.

[Hoggage_54]

If I could, I would run 500mg/week of test for the rest of my life

[ghettoboyd]

test is all i use....

[Knockout_Power]

test is all i use....

have you tried other compounds and went back to test or just like the test so much that you never deviate?

[marcus300]

I can only speak for myself but Test simply builds muscle tissue, the more the better but obvious there comes a point were sides overtake the gains. Ive used short blast cycles with very high amounts of Test and ive used low amounts for long periods. The mixture of compounds can be very dramatic if you know which ones to stack and the amounts to suit you to grow, this takes time but once you learn what compounds suit you the best you can design the ultimate cycle for gains. I also feel many people like Test so much because it makes us men more of a man, we feel like 100 men when on cycle and nothing can stop us from doing anything, the increase in confidence can be very addictive and the rewards are great.

[Knockout_Power]

I also feel many people like Test so much because it makes us men more of a man, we feel like 100 men when on cycle and nothing can stop us from doing anything, the increase in confidence can be very addictive and the rewards are great.

yah, thats has to be the ultimate way of phrasing it... it just feels good/right making everything about your life and cycle even better

[marcus300]

yah, thats has to be the ultimate way of phrasing it... it just feels good/right making everything about your life and cycle even better

It does feel good but for me ive only ever took steroids/Testosterone to build muscle tissue and not for confidence or sex drive. My only intention was to build tissue with it the side effects were a bonus

[Knockout_Power]

I had actually started not to build muscle, but to retain it while hard cutting for fights. Im currently on my first actual bulking cycle and it feels amazing. Only in week 5 and up about 11lbs

[marcus300]

I had actually started not to build muscle, but to retain it while hard cutting for fights. Im currently on my first actual bulking cycle and it feels amazing. Only in week 5 and up about 11lbs

Yes of course, if your cutting its great to maintain while the calories are down, and one of the best ways forward is going into a bulk straight out of a cut.

[Knockout_Power]

Yes of course, if your cutting its great to maintain while the calories are down, and one of the best ways forward is going into a bulk straight out of a cut.

yah, I ran keto for 16 days before pounding down the test. Ive got another 5 weeks and if this gear is just kicking in now Im in for a ride.

Sust (40%Prop, 40% PP, 20%Cyp) @ 600/wk
NPP 450/wk
Tren E 450/wk

yes I know, its light compared to the meatheads, but this is a huge cycle for me compared to me previous

[marcus300]

yah, I ran keto for 16 days before pounding down the test. Ive got another 5 weeks and if this gear is just kicking in now Im in for a ride.

Sust (40%Prop, 40% PP, 20%Cyp) @ 600/wk
NPP 450/wk
Tren E 450/wk

yes I know, its light compared to the meatheads, but this is a huge cycle for me compared to me previous

Nothing wrong with that cycle, solid and productive.

[Knockout_Power]

Nothing wrong with that cycle, solid and productive.

thanx... this is my first go round with NPP but if the results continue to go as well as they have, I may switch out tren in future cycles for it...

Im going to cruise from this cycle on Cyp @ 200 for 6-8 weeks then try a quick Prop, MT and NPP cycle... Im hoping it gets me to where I want to be mass wise and then I'll start tuning my physique slowly over 2011.

[marcus300]

thanx... this is my first go round with NPP but if the results continue to go as well as they have, I may switch out tren in future cycles for it...

Im going to cruise from this cycle on Cyp @ 200 for 6-8 weeks then try a quick Prop, MT and NPP cycle... Im hoping it gets me to where I want to be mass wise and then I'll start tuning my physique slowly over 2011.

Best of luck, keep adjusting the diet to suit the new found muscle tissue and I am sure you will achieve your goals.

[Knockout_Power]

Thanx Marcus, will do.

PS- when is Cals interview being posted?

[stack_it]

If I could, I would run 500mg/week of test for the rest of my life

You have my permission.

[Bertuzzi]

Good thread.... more posts, please

[Knockout_Power]

Yah, I really like to see what people think about this subject... a lot of people like test (of course) but most sides come from the estro rebound from higher test which you dont see with a lot of other compounds... I would like to try a super low test dose with a really high dose of something else to see what happens and then go back to the basics with a simple test cycle but up near the 1g mark... like thats high for some people... I know guys pinning 1g of gear OED

[PC650]

test alone is amazing, the feel is priceless... its when i start adding compounds when things get confusing and battles all the good feelings i had with test....imo

[dec11]

im of the opinion of keeping to my trt dose of test from now on and let tren/deca/adrol (not all at once!) do the work in short blast cycles