Is test c, dbol, deca a good beginner cycle???

[zyzz]

So I am thinking about running the following cycle:

Test c: 400mg/a week for 10 weeks.
Deca:200mg/a week for 10 weeks.
Dbol: 45mg/a day for first four weeks.
Nolva: 20mg/a day through cycle and post cycle.
Clomid: for PCT

I'm 24 been lifting for 4 years seriously.
Stats: 6'1
Weight: 240

Also here is a pic so you can understand my build. Not me but same build as me. This is my goal.

So is this a good beginner cycle???

[Big]

So I am thinking about running the following cycle:

Test c: 400mg/a week for 10 weeks.
Deca:200mg/a week for 10 weeks.
Dbol: 45mg/a day for first four weeks.
Nolva: 20mg/a day through cycle and post cycle.
Clomid: for PCT

I'm 24 been lifting for 4 years seriously.
Stats: 6'1
Weight: 240

Also here is a pic so you can understand my build.

So is this a good beginner cycle???

could you post a pic of you holding a paper that says "steroid.com" or "s.com"
I've yet to see someone look like that pic naturally, ever. not saying it isn't possible, but...

[tboney]

No... but i doubt this is your first cycle???
Unless ofcourse you are a genetic freak.

First cycle my ass..

[Knockout_Power]

you are that big nautrally? thats insane bro...

I think that cycle is a bit much for a beginner. Test alone is uaully recommended and then dbol if someone insists on a bit more gains, but to add deca for a first run is too much. Plus, you want to run your test out 2 weeks past a 19 nor to avoid the shutdown caused by 19's clearing your system.

PS- you look like a freak as it is.

[zyzz]

could you post a pic of you holding a paper that says "steroid.com" or "s.com"
I've yet to see someone look like that pic naturally, ever. not saying it isn't possible, but...

No... but i doubt this is your first cycle???
Unless ofcourse you are a genitic freak.

No the pic is not me but that is my build I'm not that big but I have wide shoulders and big chest etc. That's why I put "so you understand my build" insteed of "this is a pic of me". That is my goal pic. I don't have a camera but I am going to get my gf's this week.

[Big]

test only is best for a first cycle, don't run the nolva throughout, if you need an ai on cycle I'd run arimidex at .25mg/eod

[zyzz]

test only is best for a first cycle, don't run the nolva throughout, if you need an ai on cycle I'd run arimidex at .25mg/eod

Thanks. Doesn't arimidex help with water weight as well?

[Big]

yes the arimidex will help with bloat, also reduce sodium and drink plenty of water.

[tboney]

Thanks. Doesn't arimidex help with water weight as well?

Yes it will help with the bloat from the test but I would take the adex ONLY if your estro gets high.

If you are taking test E at 250 mgs twice a week the bloat shouldnt be all that bad.

[zyzz]

Yes it will help with the bloat from the test but I would take the adex ONLY if your estro gets high.

If you are taking test E at 250 mgs twice a week the bloat shouldnt be all that bad.

The only thing I'm worried about is that I already have high estro.

[zyzz]

test only is best for a first cycle, don't run the nolva throughout, if you need an ai on cycle I'd run arimidex at .25mg/eod

Okay so I will drop the deca. But do you think it would be okay to keep the dbol just to kick start the test c. Also do you think test c at 400mg a week is enough or should I go to 500mg or 600mg?

Thanks guy yall are helping me out alot. I came to this site 3 years ago and just from reading some of yalls post I decided to wait until I put in 2-3 more years of work and got a little older.

[desizon]

I could ride on that dude's traps.. he's a monster.. good luck with your cycle...

You'll be seeing some nice results (with great diet/training)

[Big]

dbol kicker is a judgment call, not typically problematic but great gains can be made off of test only. 400-500mg/week is fine, no need to go higher. some guys respond well to a lower dose, you won't know till you try. what is your bf%?

[zyzz]

dbol kicker is a judgment call, not typically problematic but great gains can be made off of test only. 400-500mg/week is fine, no need to go higher. some guys respond well to a lower dose, you won't know till you try. what is your bf%?

I got a bodpod test done 2 weeks ago and I was 236 at 13%.

[Matt]

I have no idea why you would post a picture of some one else....

[zyzz]

I have no idea why you would post a picture of some one else....

Because I don't have a camera and I was trying to give people an idea of my build because I have the EXACT same build just not that big. I didn't want people to see that I weighed 240 and assume that I was fat because I'm not just got a big build.

[Matt]

Because I don't have a camera and I was trying to give people an idea of my build because I have the EXACT same build just not that big. I didn't want people to see that I weighed 240 and assume that I was fat because I'm not just got a big build.

Ok im with you, btw who's the guy in the photo???

He looks familiar

[zyzz]

Ok im with you, btw who's the guy in the photo???

He looks familiar

I'm I allowed to say names???

[Big]

I'm I allowed to say names???

provided the guy in the picture wouldn't mind, neither do we. if it's a friend we don't need his name, but he looks like he could be pro

[zyzz]

provided the guy in the picture wouldn't mind, neither do we. if it's a friend we don't need his name, but he looks like he could be pro

Oh okay I didn't know this was allowed. It is a older pic of Trey Brewer. Who is a friend of mine.

[zyzz]

Okay So here is the new cycle.

Test c- 400mg a weekfor 10 weeks
dbol- 45mg a day for 4 weeks
arimidex- .25 mg eod throughout cycle
Clomid- PCT

[Matt]

Id keep the armidex on hand, use only if needed.

Pct should be clomid and nolva...

[Knockout_Power]

Okay So here is the new cycle.

Test c- 400mg a weekfor 10 weeks
dbol- 45mg a day for 4 weeks
arimidex- .25 mg eod throughout cycle
Clomid- PCT

much nicer cycle, I think the dbol is still a little high (25 ED would suffice)

I would also add Nolva during PCT

[Big]

arimidex if sides call for it.

clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

[zyzz]

Alright I think I got it right this time.

Test C- 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Dbol- 30mg a day for 4 weeks

PCT:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Also:
Arimidex at .25 mg eod if needed.

[Matt]

Alright I think I got it right this time.

Test C- 400mg a week for 10 weeks
Dbol- 30mg a day for 4 weeks

PCT:
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Also:
Arimidex at .25 mg eod if needed.

Looks good, your pct would start 18 days after your last test shot..

Good luck and maybe start a log...

[Knockout_Power]

Looks good, your pct would start 18 days after your last test shot..

Good luck and maybe start a log...

this is always a great idea to compare future cycles against.

[zyzz]

Looks good, your pct would start 18 days after your last test shot..

Good luck and maybe start a log...

Thanks for the help man. Also one more qeustion. I'm thinking about pinning 2 times a week 200mg monday morning and 200mg thursday night. Is this the best way to take test c???

[Knockout_Power]

Thanks for the help man. Also one more qeustion. I'm thinking about pinning 2 times a week 200mg monday morning and 200mg thursday night. Is this the best way to take test c???

bingo... keep those blood levels stable.

[zyzz]

this is always a great idea to compare future cycles against.

Thanks for help man. I would have ran dbol at 25mg but I have 15 mg tabs so I'm just going to do 30mg.

[zyzz]

Also I have enough gear to do 12 weeks of test c instead of 10. Should I run 10 weeks or 12 weeks??

[Knockout_Power]

Thanks for help man. I would have ran dbol at 25mg but I have 15 mg tabs so I'm just going to do 30mg.

nothing wrong with that at all. Ive just seen some guys, usually at the advice of their huge buddy at the gym, to start with 50+mg ED and they look like stay puffed marshmellow man in 10 days and their liver and kidneys start to hurt... ouch man, not worth it. 30 is awesome.

Enjoy your cycle.

[Knockout_Power]

Also I have enough gear to do 12 weeks of test c instead of 10. Should I run 10 weeks or 12 weeks??

yah, stretch it out if you want, beginner cycle is 10-12 weeks usually. Keep in mind you lose a slight bit of gear in the end of the plastic part of the needle so you may want to load .1mL extra when you pin to make up for whats left in the needle. This will alter the amount you have left at the end... probably use an extra mL throughout the cycle.

[zyzz]

So I got my hands on some more test c. So I am now going to run 500mg instead of 400mg

[stevey_6t9]

Oh okay I didn't know this was allowed. It is a older pic of Trey Brewer. Who is a friend of mine.

if your friends with trey then ask him for advice rather then here. i certainly would be the first in line.

[zyzz]

if your friends with trey then ask him for advice rather then here. i certainly would be the first in line.

I'm not close enough with him to ask him about it. We played high school football together and were good friends but the only times I talk to him now are if we run into each other.

[chestbrother]

Does anyone know if the real zy-zz was the OP?

[MuscleInk]

Does anyone know if the real zy-zz was the OP?

1. Why are you bumping a 4 yr old thread?
2. Who really cares? That kid was a pompous idiot and most of us around here won't discuss him.
3. The OP said at the beginning of the thread the pic is NOT him.

[AD]

i'm the real Izzy. no actually, i'm Slash.

[fit2bOld]

Anyone who looks up to even mentions **** on this site become immediately banned.