Proposed Test/ Var Cycle

[kisektah1]

To all my fellow bb's >> I'm 32, 5'11" tall, and weigh in at 210 lbs, BF 14%. I take glutamine, protein and a mutli daily. Ive been training for a consistent 5 years and now I am thinking of doing AAS. I really want to take my body into a new level, my aim is to shed some bf while keeping/ gaining muscle. Ill be hitting the treadmill 4x week 30-40 mins and eating clean.

Cycle:
1 – 10 Test Enan 500mg/wk (2x)
5 - 12 Anav 60mg/ED
1 – 12 A-dex .25mg EOD

PCT:
12 - 16 Clomid 100/50/50/50 (200mg Day 1)
12 - 16 Nolva 40/20/20/20
+ Some Tribulus


PCT starting wk 12, 3 days after last Var dose.

*Also thinking to take some clen, to the end of my cycle/PCT (60mg pyramid to 120mg. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off)??

Additional Info;
*ive done a previous cycle 3 years ago without researching AAS. 300mg test e for 7 weeks.
* Do you guys think i will have much bloat off this cycle?

Any thoughts? Advice? Positive/ Negative Comments??

[D7M]

Looks good to me.

Nice to see someone who has done some research.

I'd hold off on the adex, unless you are prone to gyno, or experience any ERSE.

No need to take clomid at 200mg the first day of pct.

[kisektah1]

Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah i might drop the adex, unless i see bloat.
I would be getting blood work done 2 weeks before cycle and 2 weeks after pct, to make sure everythings ok.

Also:
- What do you think about the clen, when/ what weeks should i take it?
- Do you think id bloat much or have lots of water weight on this cycle?
- Would my Lean Body Mass increase?

Thanks again!

[D7M]

Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah i might drop the adex, unless i see bloat.
I would be getting blood work done 2 weeks before cycle and 2 weeks after pct, to make sure everythings ok.

Also:
- What do you think about the clen, when/ what weeks should i take it? I wouldn't worry about the clen at this point. Just get that diet down and hit the cardio
- Do you think id bloat much or have lots of water weight on this cycle? Hard to say, that's pretty individually dependent
- Would my Lean Body Mass increase? Let's hope so! that's the point isn't it?

Thanks again!

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[kisektah1]

How about instead of the Armidex dose, to use Proviron at 25mg a day to keep bloating down and to stay leaner and give a harder look?

I heard from a fellow member that Proviron at low doses while on a test cycle, keeps the bloat down and gives a harder/leaner look and increases libido, is it true?

[HawaiianPride.]

D7 has got you covered. Personally wouldn't exceed 2 compounds with this being your first go. Diet will determine bloat/water for the most part. Good luck.

[kisektah1]

Thanks
so i wont worry about proviron or adex?
unless i see signs of gyno or bloating too much?

[HawaiianPride.]

Keep the Dex on hand and pay close attention to your diet to keep sides to a minimum.

[gym_junki]

How about instead of the Armidex dose, to use Proviron at 25mg a day to keep bloating down and to stay leaner and give a harder look?

I heard from a fellow member that Proviron at low doses while on a test cycle, keeps the bloat down and gives a harder/leaner look and increases libido, is it true?

id add the proviron at 50mg a day it will work grate wif ur var and also keep u looking hard so why not. u can also run the proviron half way through pct at 25mg.

[kisektah1]

id add the proviron at 50mg a day it will work grate wif ur var and also keep u looking hard so why not. u can also run the proviron half way through pct at 25mg.

Thats what i thought, it might have a synergetic effect with the Var. So is the dosage 25 or 50mg ED during the cycle? Does it have the same effect as adex during the cycle? (hardening... etc?)

[HawaiianPride.]

If you end up running the Prov, it would be wise to keep a real AI on hand. It's AI properties are weak at best, especially in a head to head comparison with Exe or Dex.

[gym_junki]

yes proviron will work the same, will be good to keep ur e levels controlled and bloating u will also look harder, id go proviron 100 pecent. as for the dose id go with 50mg on cycle and if u want u can run it half way through pct at 25mged. proviron and anavar work grate together.

[gym_junki]

If you end up running the Prov, it would be wise to keep a real AI on hand. It's AI properties are weak at best, especially in a head to head comparison with Exe or Dex.

yeh thats right keep adex on hand incase i doubt ull need it while on proviron but just incase.

[no1tou]

Is 7 weeks of var and 10 weeks of proviron together gonna be hard on the liver or because they are both so mildly liver toxic that it should be fine?

[HawaiianPride.]

Should be fine as long as Liv52 or another liver care is ran.

[kisektah1]

Yeah i got some Liv52 on hand. I heard that proviron causes boldness if your prone, so im not sure if ill go in that direction. i think i might stick with the adex.

Thanks for the replies!

[40plusnewbie]

a potential side of anavar is hair loss as well if I remember correctly. Personally I'm not prone to that, full head of hair @ 43yrs old that is thick as hell. I've taken var before and think that is a potential side, better double check + possibly reconsider cycle, be ready for possible hair loss, have an anti hair loss product to use, whatever...

[kisektah1]

a potential side of anavar is hair loss as well if I remember correctly. Personally I'm not prone to that, full head of hair @ 43yrs old that is thick as hell. I've taken var before and think that is a potential side, better double check + possibly reconsider cycle, be ready for possible hair loss, have an anti hair loss product to use, whatever...

I think Var doesnt promote hairloss because it doesnt convert to DHT, on the otherhand im not to sure if Adex promotes hairloss?? can anyone answer that for me please? Anything i can take during my cycle to slow the hair loss?

Thanks

[HawaiianPride.]

I think Var doesnt promote hairloss because it doesnt convert to DHT, on the otherhand im not to sure if Adex promotes hairloss?? can anyone answer that for me please? Anything i can take during my cycle to slow the hair loss?

Thanks

Dex does not promote hairloss.

[kisektah1]

Dex does not promote hairloss.

Thanks HawaiianPride!

What about the test e, does it shed?
Anything i can take to keep my hair on the 11 week cycle?

[HawaiianPride.]

If you are worried about hair loss, you can utilize the hair loss treatment finasteride, Propecia, DHT blocker/hair loss shampoo with the DHT blocking properties, or Nizoral.