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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    You've got the active life listed for the long esters, rather than half-life. Cut them in half.
    Bonaparte,

    Here are the inputs to the spreadsheet.

    If they are wrong, then I can easily change it.

    The ester % is used to calculate the actual amount of test per ml injected.

    I need someone to bounce this back off, so thanks for chiming in.

    The Sustanon figures are for Sciroxx Pentadex, but are easy for the user to change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fit N Fun View Post
    Bonaparte,

    Here are the inputs to the spreadsheet.

    If they are wrong, then I can easily change it.
    Well, although active life and half life will very from person to person, the best estimate I know of is to multiply the number of carbons on the ester by .8 for half life in days, and 1.6 for active life.
    This method seems to align itself most closely with the average finding of studies (among dozens of participants). And we're talking plasma half-life, not elimination half-life (which is basically active life).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Well, although active life and half life will very from person to person, the best estimate I know of is to multiply the number of carbons on the ester by .8 for half life in days, and 1.6 for active life.
    This method seems to align itself most closely with the average finding of studies (among dozens of participants). And we're talking plasma half-life, not elimination half-life (which is basically active life).
    Bonaparte,

    Do you have any points of reference for the 0.8 for active life.

    No problem to make the adjustments, just hard to be certain where the true facts lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fit N Fun View Post
    Bonaparte,

    Do you have any points of reference for the 0.8 for active life.

    No problem to make the adjustments, just hard to be certain where the true facts lie.
    .8 is for half life.
    None off the top of my head (or on my computer), but I've been deabating and thinking about this for a few years and that just seems the most accurate (and is the consensus among the most knowledgeable minds on many AAS sites).
    But there is no "true fact", since there are many factors that come into play and will affect half life and active life. This is why you're really just wasting your time with this, since "roid calculators" already exist, but they aren't that accurate since this is biology and random probability in action, not concrete mathematics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    .8 is for half life.
    None off the top of my head (or on my computer), but I've been deabating and thinking about this for a few years and that just seems the most accurate (and is the consensus among the most knowledgeable minds on many AAS sites).
    But there is no "true fact", since there are many factors that come into play and will affect half life and active life. This is why you're really just wasting your time with this, since "roid calculators" already exist, but they aren't that accurate since this is biology and random probability in action, not concrete mathematics.
    Bonaparte,

    I will create a version of the spreadsheet using 0.8 for each carbon on the ester and see how it looks, my guess is that the only difference will be the scale of delivery and the time to PCT will be different.

    I will post up how the same course looks on each calculation method

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    Bonaparte,

    I have adjusted the half life inputs to 0.8days per carbon atom.

    Do you agree they are right now?

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    marcus300

    Thanks for pointing out the roid calculator, I had not seen that before, it will be helpful to see their inputs.

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