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    So who's had success with Swifto's HCG and PCT protocol?

    So who's had success with my HCG and PCT protocol?

    - HCG used during the cycle duration at a low dose (250-500ius 2-3x week)

    - PCT with Tore/Tamox

    Anyone also done the Tore/Tamox with the Tore frontload?

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    i run my hcg as you suggest and i feel it works well.

    i have not had the chance to run tore but from what ive heard, if i can ever find some ill pick it up

    what is your suggestion on when to stop using the hcg when using say short esters like prop, npp or winny ??

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    I think HCG during cycle is a benefit, and I have seen a faster improvement in my PCT and I seem to retain my gains better. Now whether that is due better diet or more expierence I can't say for certain. But I will always use HCG in cycle from now on. Just my .02... Thanks Swifto!! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfour_tay View Post
    i run my hcg as you suggest and i feel it works well.

    i have not had the chance to run tore but from what ive heard, if i can ever find some ill pick it up

    what is your suggestion on when to stop using the hcg when using say short esters like prop, npp or winny ??
    HCG on cycle really makes a difference, or at the end.

    HCG is imperitive when cycling over 5-6 weeks IMHO.

    Needs to be used every time, on cycle or pre-PCT.

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    I have just finished my first cycle ( 1 month TrenA 75mg ED /TNE 50mg 2s ED) stupid I know but did not know it, when I started. Anyway during the cycle I discovered this site and after reading a little bit started L-Dex ( chosen mainly due to fears of optical side from some others,I had a retinal vein hemmorage years ago from a drug side) as an AI during the last two weeks of the cycle. After reading your articles on PCT and doing a bit of reasearch and again finding that Torem seemed to have less optical sides than others I chose this as my primary PCT tool.

    I am in day 11 of PCT and have continued the L-dex and started the Torem 60mg ED during PCT. So far the results have been fantastic, I feel absolutely zero depression, my sex drive has been great so I assume Test levels are O-K , and I have maintained most of the gains so far. Of course its still early and lab work after the PCT will provide real answers, still for a 55yr old I must say I have been very happy with the Torem and wish to thank you for taking the time to write such a well worded article backed with real world medical data instead of just opinion.

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    I've used you torm/tamox pct without running hcg on cycle and it worked great. good recovery.... so i'm really looking forward to running hcg during cycle.

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    Swifto is hcg okay when running other peptides on you cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    I have just finished my first cycle ( 1 month TrenA 75mg ED /TNE 50mg 2s ED) stupid I know but did not know it, when I started. Anyway during the cycle I discovered this site and after reading a little bit started L-Dex ( chosen mainly due to fears of optical side from some others,I had a retinal vein hemmorage years ago from a drug side) as an AI during the last two weeks of the cycle. After reading your articles on PCT and doing a bit of reasearch and again finding that Torem seemed to have less optical sides than others I chose this as my primary PCT tool.

    I am in day 11 of PCT and have continued the L-dex and started the Torem 60mg ED during PCT. So far the results have been fantastic, I feel absolutely zero depression, my sex drive has been great so I assume Test levels are O-K , and I have maintained most of the gains so far. Of course its still early and lab work after the PCT will provide real answers, still for a 55yr old I must say I have been very happy with the Torem and wish to thank you for taking the time to write such a well worded article backed with real world medical data instead of just opinion.
    Fantastic.

    I prefer to use Tore at 120mg/ED the first 7-14 days though. But if your fine on 60mg/ED, dont change anything. There is no point in using more when less is working.

    I'd drop the AI soon too. There should be little aromotase becuase endogenous T is low. I dont condone the use of AI's during PCT, unless HCG is used.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bai Xiong Ma View Post
    I've used you torm/tamox pct without running hcg on cycle and it worked great. good recovery.... so i'm really looking forward to running hcg during cycle.
    Good to hear.

    With HCG using on cycle, PCT is even easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ideservethis View Post
    Swifto is hcg okay when running other peptides on you cycle
    Yes.

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