Hi everyone! About me..

[jrun]

I posted this info in the new male members forum as well..


Age - 28

Height - 6'2

Weight - 190 (current)

Bf% - If i post a picture can someone help me figure that out?


Little history -


Cycle history - Novice, but now thanks to this site i am learning every day. When i was 19 i took dbol for about 8 weeks. I was super naive and just did what a friend was doing. Back then i weighed about 150! I jumped up to about 170 during that time period. Crazy how that cycle ended, but the guy i got it from OD'd on oxycodon. So my cycle stopped, never did a pct, just stopped. Surprisingly.. i was able to keep almost all of that weight gain. I continued to lift and for the longest time stayed about 170lbs. I've been lifting off and on since i was about 19.. always more so on than off.


Flash forward to today, i'm turning 28 end of the month. Still naive about steroids, once again i got started on them 6 weeks ago with a new friend. Basically i made the mistake of getting into them again, just going on the advice of a friend.. and now here i sit, 6 weeks into a cycle and i'm just now doing my own research. Trying to educate myself and see if i can get help from you guys.


I started this cycle, at 170lbs 6 weeks ago and i'm up to 190 now. For the last 6 weeks i have been doing the below.


Taking 1cc sustanon 250 /week split out into 2 shots spaced out a week.

Taking 1cc nandrolone deca 200 /week split out into 2 shots spaced out a week.


So we're pulling .5cc sust and .5cc of the deca into the syringe and injecting that on ie: Saturdays and Wednesdays.


The dosage has been the same since we started. Here's where my questions start!


*reminder, i know i did a very stupid thing getting started on this without the prior knowledge, but thats done now.. i can't go backwards in time.. so tough love aside, just some straight up with me help would be nice!*


1. Is this dosage low? normal? i don't think its high based off what i've been reading lately. Should my dosages be any different?


2. How should i finish out this cycle? Based off what i've read, since i'm using deca i should do this for another 6 weeks.. stopping the deca 2 weeks before the sust?


3. Here's a big one! I don't think he got enough sust to go past 6 weeks, he has a vial of anadrol 50 that he said we'd switch to after the sust. Is that a bad move? General thoughts on this situation?


4. He has Arimidex for the pct.. i've been reading about using clomid and novladex being a recommended stack, is that more advised?


I'm sure i have alot more questions and alot more to learn. I'm trying to make up for my ignorance thats lead me here.


Just want to say thank you for taking the time to read all this and listen. Anyone who has some advise to help me out, i really appreciate it!

[MBMETC]

wow where to begin, i'm no expert but i believe sust should be shot eod becouse of the proponate ester, and the inclusion of the deca on a first cycle is a no-no and you may not have enough sust so you wanna add a- bombs and further suppress your hpta...all with out pct or running an ai on cycle.

[cro]

way off bud ...arimadex is tb run while on cycle to keep erses down.nolva/clomid/ for pct im no expert hell ive never even cycled but im about 2 after years of research

[jrun]

Yea, essentially what I'm trying to do now is figure out the best course of action considering my current predicament.. Which is somewhere up sh*t creek.. That being said.. Right now I'm up 15lbs, strength gains have been dramatic and have had zero noticeable side effects.. That's the only thing keeping me positive about jumping into this foolishly

[MBMETC]

way off bud ...arimadex is tb run while on cycle to keep erses down.nolva/clomid/ for pct im no expert hell ive never even cycled but im about 2 after years of research

im sorry are you referring to my post or the op

[MBMETC]

Yea, essentially what I'm trying to do now is figure out the best course of action considering my current predicament.. Which is somewhere up sh*t creek.. That being said.. Right now I'm up 15lbs, strength gains have been dramatic and have had zero noticeable side effects.. That's the only thing keeping me positive about jumping into this foolishly

you're kinda in a pickel and sides from deca could start to hit in weeks 6 to 8. you deffinately need some kind of test to finish this cycle, i wouldn't add the a-bombs, if you cant get test to finish this out you may as well abort the cycle run a proper pct and chalk it up to lesson learned. i would also be looking in to caber or prami and aromisin

[cyounger100]

im no expert but i would think u need nolva and clomid for pct. the dex is run during the cycle if sides pop up i believe u beeter click on that red banner up there and get u some clomid and novl.

[shennen]

wow where to begin, i'm no expert but i believe sust should be shot eod becouse of the proponate ester, and the inclusion of the deca on a first cycle is a no-no and you may not have enough sust so you wanna add a- bombs and further suppress your hpta...all with out pct or running an ai on cycle.

Me either, but ive read some threads from swifto saying that there is no need to pin sust EOD or ED simply because of the Prop in it. As its very minimal amount compared to the other tests. Ill try to find the thread, or maybe he will chime in. Anyways. Twice a week is perfectly fine for SUST.

Dont sweat it too much OP, Youre running an additional and probably unneeded compound like deca. Most people around here will say that you should have done a test only cycle to start, as later on your cycles will be multiple compounds and 1g + weekly of test just to achieve results. (If it ever gets that far) Also, It could have been difficult to identify the problem or side if any came up as youve never used either compound before.

However, Youre not really overdoing anything. I STRONGLY suggest posting your diet as youre already cycling, and old enough to make your own decisions, (and not underage by board standards) so get what you can outta this and PCT PROPERLY. Eat/Sleep/Train is all that matters on cycle, Otherwise youre probably not doing it right. Just my .02

Enjoy it. Feel free to ask questions. Most people here are very helpful with little attitude.

[shennen]

Ohhhh lord...just saw number three....

Get more sust for ****s sake. Run it ten to twelve weeks. Read the sust profile. Don't cycle without everything. Get.......more.......sust.........

[cro]

no i was repling to jrun

[cro]

i dont think your up shits creek.these guys on here r the best bro. if you ask questions properly and tactfully the vets will help.most advice will be passed around on here so there is a thread with your ?already on it/chances r someone has asked it...your buddy is risky and noes very little and neither did i until my quest 4 knowledge.....good luck

[jrun]

Now I wish I had my own connection.. Doesnt sound like I can get more sust from him very quickly

[themoreyouknow]

wow...ummm....
arimidex for pct is a bad idea...grab some nolva and clomid from the site sponsor
your best bet would prob to just stop everything and start pct.

[jrun]

wow...ummm....
arimidex for pct is a bad idea...grab some nolva and clomid from the site sponsor
your best bet would prob to just stop everything and start pct.

I think this might have to be my course of action.. Thanks for giving it to me straight.. I just did my last inj last night.. When should I start the pct and can you recommend how to dose it? I'll take my bumps and bruises for this cycle..continue to read and ask questions from you guys before doing another cycle.

Edit: is the ar-r site the sponsor site for the nolva and clomid?

[shennen]

Yes, liquid clomi and tamox is nolva

[cro]

wait around a while and good things happen

[jrun]

wait around a while and good things happen

I'm not sure what you mean?

[Sicko]

I would get your nolva and clomid from AR-R then finish out what you started,IMO you are not taking high doses,so as long as you get your pct in order you should be fine.just stop your deca before you run out of sus.I think it is one week before,check with someone else not sure if it is one or two..

SORRY I DID NOT SEE THE "ONLY ENOUGH SUS FOR 6 WEEKS"...GIVEN THAT I WOULD DEFINETELY GET CLOMID/NOLVA AND STOP CYCLE AND START PCT NOW...

[jrun]

Do I start immediately? Out wait for the deca to flush out before starting?

[MBMETC]

drop the deca now and if you have enough sust to last 2 more weeks run it and then start pct 18 days after last sust shot
if i'm wrong someone will by to correct me, but im 99% sure be g2g

[jrun]

Thank you so much for the advice guys.. how should I dose the nolva and clomid? I used up the last of the sust on wednesday.. And I don't know where to get more.. So its looking like I start pct asap

[MBMETC]

clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
dosed in mgs per day for 4 weeks
yes you can take them together

[jrun]

clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
dosed in mgs per day for 4 weeks
yes you can take them together

Thankyou MBM!!

[Sicko]

clomid 100/100/50/50
nolvadex 40/40/20/20
dosed in mgs per day for 4 weeks
yes you can take them together

So, just a heads up MB. I got scolded for running Clomid @ 100mg ed for first and second week of my pct that I am presently in week three of.I didnt notice any adverse affects for running it at 100mg, but was told by several reputable guys here that it was overkill. 50/50/50/50 ?

[MBMETC]

i appreciate it , but the guy was running muti-compounds with not enough test to run 2 weeks past deca and i believe he kick it with d-bol all with no hcg or prior cycle exp
thanks though for the heads up, bro

if im wrong i'll gladly take my lumps

[MBMETC]

oops my bad just re-read op and d-bol was not used as a kicker

[jrun]

No dbol this cycle.. Just saying when I was 19 I tried it.. I have the a-bomb I can take for 2 weeks if I stop deca now..i just dont have anymore sust.. Should I do 2 weeks of abomb and no deca then do pct? Or just do pct ?

[MBMETC]

nooo !no more for you until you run pct and get educated, for now your on time out...lol

[jrun]

Hey guys, checking out the site to order the clomid and nolva.. It says they come in these amounts.

Liquid Clomi 70mL 35mg/mL
Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL

How does that break out if i'm to do the dosage suggested above? Would one of each of those cover me or do i need more? I haven't quite got a handle on the mgs / mls / cc conversions yet.

[cro]

1 each will cover you

[jrun]

1 each will cover you

Thanks CRO!