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    what sides did u get bro?

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    I would front load the prop at 200mgs the first 2 shots then 100mgs eod for your jump. the 500mgs test every week is fine. I would add in some EQ or better yet primobolan if available but you can do just fine on test alone. Do NOT DO DECA if you are concerned about bloating. That can be the worst bloating agent in certain people. Diet is the key here. If you are saying that you are having a bloat problem then I assume your sodium and simple carb intake is too high? All test will convert to different degrees into estrogen and that's ok in controlled amounts because estrogen helps build muscle along with test by providing an ideal environment. There are so many estrogen receptors in fat cells it's crazy. So when we have too much estrogen in our body the H20 flows to these receptors in the fat cells like water to a sponge. So I would recommend something like armidex (SERM) to limit the amount of conversion. I bet your body fat is closer to 20% or better if you have it tested accurately? No slight to you so please don't take offense. So you need to concentrate and cleaning up your diet and sticking to your cardio from what I'm understanding. Good luck.
    Actually yeah deca was the main culprit in my bloating problem, not to mention the "rebound effect" i noticed after pct. I experienced a large amount of water retention as soon as i stopped pct after 4 weeks of nolva and clomid. Still havent managed to get it off completely, therefore 16% is an overstatement i'm probably closer to 14% without the water retention.
    And yes I am definitely considering running an AI this time, just because I am rather susceptible to estrogen related side effects. Which ai do you guys prefer running during a cycle? hmm what a hard decision.. arimidex letro or aromasin?

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    Armidex for sure. Letro almost blocks estrogen at 100% and that can really hinder your cycle. Unless you have a bad case of gyno then use letro and nolva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    what sides did u get bro?
    severe cystic acne (stil have scars), gyno, heart palpitations, terrible LDL-HDL (even on statins).

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    severe cystic acne (stil have scars), gyno, heart palpitations, terrible LDL-HDL (even on statins).
    fuk me test cyp only it is !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevey_6t9 View Post
    severe cystic acne (stil have scars), gyno, heart palpitations, terrible LDL-HDL (even on statins).
    Thank Stevie people need to hear this stuff
    Sorry for you ,but it could help others

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    Sorry to hear about the sides and rough cycle. If that happened to me I would stay away from all test. These are possible but in my experience I have never seen anyone react like that. Some acne, I get gyno, some raise in bp. It is essential to take all precautions and have AI or serm on hand along with pct prior to starting cycle

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