Too aspirate or not to aspirate...That is the question.

[Far from massive]

Hello all, time for a little controversy,

Recently I have given a lot of thought to aspiration during shoulder injections. I have been pinning Test Cyp and Deca and the problem that I have is that either before, during, or after aspiration I wind up moving the needle not just in and out buy around in my shoulder. This often causes noticeable trauma to the shoulder and it remains sore for a couple of days afterward. However when there is no movement of the needle I feel absolutely no pain either during injection or the next day.

What I have noticed is that when I aspirate I have never once found any blood nor have I had any bleeds as are common on other areas. Because of this lack of vessels and also the probability that movement of the needle after aspiration will negate the process anyway, I have decided to stop aspirating while pinning shoulders.

Thighs on the other hand seem to have a lot more blood vessels and just as importantly I am able to hold the needle rock solid during the entire process due to the availability of both hands to perform the injection.

Anyway I thought I would throw this out there and see what others feelings were on the subject. Keep in mind if you are able to maintain a steady needle insertion during aspiration injection then my vote would be to go ahead and aspirate, however for me this is not possible.

What do you guys think?

FFM

[rebel70]

I understand the reason to aspirate.Yet I have never seen a doc or nurse do it.I recently stopped aspirating in delt injections also due to the same reason.As far as quads I do aspirate.I also found it is much easier when I use a 23g instead of the 25g's provided for me.

[Necrosaro]

Aspirate! Doesn't take long and will save problems down the road

[Vullfromsc]

i don't aspirate.. i actually even inject about .1cc of air at the end of every injection. most syringes hold about .05-.1ml of gear in the little chamber at the base of the needle.. so i let gravity help me out and i make sure i get all of my gear + .05cc of air..

to be honest, i think the whole aspiration thing is overrated. .05cc of air isn't going to do shit. even if you inject it directly into a vein.. you would literally need 3cc+ of air to cause any fatal problems. the worst thing that i have ever had is really bad tren cough from putting tren into a vein

EDIT: to be clear, i am not advising anyone to do this who isn't comfortable with it.. and you probably should aspirate in case, i'm just saying that i don't and have done many, many injections with no problems. if you want to get all the gear, this has to be done lol

[Tigershark]

I always aspirate. That first time you dont and then inject into your vien you will wish you had.

[SlimJoe]

I always aspirate, better to be safe

[Far from massive]

Just to make things clear, the main concern in hitting a vein when injecting steroids is not air, its the fact that steroids are mixed with vegtable oil and other ingredients that will cause microembolisms when they hit the lungs, this is what causes the sudden non productive cough.

[cro]

havent pinned the delt yet ,but now that you mention that would be hard to aspirate with control

Hello all, time for a little controversy,

Recently I have given a lot of thought to aspiration during shoulder injections. I have been pinning Test Cyp and Deca and the problem that I have is that either before, during, or after aspiration I wind up moving the needle not just in and out buy around in my shoulder. This often causes noticeable trauma to the shoulder and it remains sore for a couple of days afterward. However when there is no movement of the needle I feel absolutely no pain either during injection or the next day.

What I have noticed is that when I aspirate I have never once found any blood nor have I had any bleeds as are common on other areas. Because of this lack of vessels and also the probability that movement of the needle after aspiration will negate the process anyway, I have decided to stop aspirating while pinning shoulders.

Thighs on the other hand seem to have a lot more blood vessels and just as importantly I am able to hold the needle rock solid during the entire process due to the availability of both hands to perform the injection.

Anyway I thought I would throw this out there and see what others feelings were on the subject. Keep in mind if you are able to maintain a steady needle insertion during aspiration injection then my vote would be to go ahead and aspirate, however for me this is not possible.

What do you guys think?

FFM

[ucf465]

A buddy of mine is in nursing school and they taught him to Always aspirate. On the other hand many docs say there is no need.

[cro]

makes sence

A buddy of mine is in nursing school and they taught him to Always aspirate. On the other hand many docs say there is no need.

[Noles12]

I always aspirate. Trust me after injecting in a vein with something like tren you will swear by aspirating. I never want that feeling again. Instant dizziness, cold sweats, nausea, head ache, and anxiety. Youu should be able to hold the barrel between two fingers and lift the plunger with another. You only have to pull up a slight bit

[mrniceguy215]

have some one inject your delts for you. problem solved

[cro]

no doubt.

have some one inject your delts for you. problem solved

[dolla$ign]

During my football days in college, the team doctor would never aspirate when he injected me with cortizone, which is a steroid but I don't believe it is mixed with oil. I asked one time about it and he said most times if the needle is in a vein (which is very unlikely) that upon injection, the vein will collapse and it will not be able to enter the blood stream. I aspirate though because I don't mind being a little sore; just rotate injection sites and plan your pins around which body part you will work out.

[JohnnyVegas]

I only inject in the glutes, and moving the needle around a little doesn't bother me, so I always aspirate. I also leave some air in the syringe to push the gear through.

[goinglong]

^ x2

[Amorphic]

its not even a question as far as im concerned. Always always aspirate. I have drawn blood after aspirated on several occasions (usually in delts). I would hate to have seen what would have happened if i continued the shot while being in a vein. Its just safe practice to always aspirate. It takes 2 seconds, why anyone wouldnt do it is beyond me

[JohnnyVegas]

I have only had blood show up once when aspirating, but I was happy I didn't inject.

[SlimJoe]

Just to make things clear, the main concern in hitting a vein when injecting steroids is not air, its the fact that steroids are mixed with vegtable oil and other ingredients that will cause microembolisms when they hit the lungs, this is what causes the sudden non productive cough.

God! You will no if ir does go in a vein seen 2 guys horrendous

[SlimJoe]

I have only had blood show up once when aspirating, but I was happy I didn't inject.

I have had blood a few times just pull out I use a fresh needle reinject even with the blood in the syringe your ok