Deca at 200mg/week????

[NJou812]

First Cycle starts soon - Lookin for opinions :unsure:

Want to ensure the stack below adds some muscle on my frame.
Goal – Lean weight gain – 12-15lbs

Stats – 30 years, 155lb, 8% BF, training hard for ten years. Training on a Mentzer Heavy Duty type program at the moment. 2800 calories consumed per day.

:lift: First Cycle:
Dbol – 25mg/day Weeks 1-4
Deca - 200mg/week Weeks 1-10
Test Prop - 100mg/Mon., Wed., Fri. Weeks 7-13
Clomid Week 14 – 300mg/day 1, 100mg/days 2-11, 50mg/days 11-21 (Is Clomid generally a 50mg tab? I read it was a 5mg tab but that sounded wrong, especially if 300mg are needed day #1)
Nolva – start 20mg/day weeks 3-8, then 10mg/day weeks 8-13 (I’m prone to gyno)

Questions –
1. I know the 200mg/week of Deca is low. I can shorten the Deca to 8 weeks and increase the dosage to about 250mg/week
2. I can do the Test Prop Weeks 5 - 11, but then when should I start the Clomid with the Deca and Test (3 weeks after Deca, or three days after Test?)
3. Any other mistakes in there?

Thx for the help

[BDTR]

Run the test prop from start to finish. Run the deca ten weeks, not 8.

[NJou812]

Thx bdtr,
So run the deca at 10 weeks, even at just 200mg/week?

[LORDBLiTZ]

I did deca @ 200 a week with dbol for my first cycle and went up 32 pounds.

[NJou812]

32lbs - that's massive! I have heard of good gains on 200mg/week Deca, but most people here are saying at least 300mg/week. I'm not a big guy (yet =o) ), so I think I may grow well on 200mg/week deca - and hopefully decrease the side effects like gyno.

[Beefeater]

Deca/D-bol .... 30 - 35 mg ed. deca 200 mg a week produced excellent gains for my first time round. did the deca for 13 weeks and the d-bol for 7 weeks ..... got super results up 23 lbs held about 15 of them .. IMO dont overshoot if it still works well why change it.. just my 0.2

beef

[Rookiejay]

I was going to run almost identical cycle starting (hopefully) in 1 week.
Then I shortened it to this:

1-3 Dbol - 25mg ED
1-5 Deca 400mg EW
4-6 Test E 500mg EW
4-8 Nolva 20mg ED (or earlier if gyno symptoms occur)
9-11 Clomid PCT

However, I might go back to the original and run Deca for 8 or 100 weeks at 200 and run 5 or 6 weeks of Test E @ 250. I'm definitely runnining Nolva to keep the water retention down and prevent gyno.

Jay

PS - we have similar statistics - I'm 37 - around 160 - 5"11

[NJou812]

Thx for the opinions,
Rookiejay, Keep me posted on your cycle. I'd like to see how you're doing once you start - may help me with my dosages. Once I start, I'll be posting a thread and up-dating it every few days.

[Rookiejay]

Thx for the opinions,
Rookiejay, Keep me posted on your cycle. I'd like to see how you're doing once you start - may help me with my dosages. Once I start, I'll be posting a thread and up-dating it every few days.

Cool,
I'll do the same