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    First Cycle, Need Help!

    Hello,

    I am looking to start my first cycle. I am 28 years old, 6'2", 295lbs, around 24% body fat, I have been training for over ten years, primarily in power lifting. I am currently training for a couple power lifting competitions and a 5k race. The goal of the cycle would be to help me strengthen up, add definition, and also drop some of my bad weight (fat). I am very new at this, have been looking at the following items:

    1) Deca
    2) Pit GH
    3) Tren
    4) Var
    5) D-Bol

    I am going to be looking to do an eight week stack, unless there are any other suggestions. Any help from A to Z would be most appreciated as I am new to this side of supplements.

    Thank You

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    first cycle test only, either e or c, i would drop some body fat before i think of starting a cycle, have you got a pct plan?

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    Have you done some research... you need research bro...
    1) Deca
    2) Pit GH
    3) Tren
    4) Var
    5) D-Bol
    tren for 1st cycle...????
    Research bro....

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    no stacks on first cycle. Any cycle should ALWAYS include test.
    drop the bf% before starting any cycle... shoot for 15% bf%
    8 weeks is probably too short. Test effects don't start to kick in until around week 4. standard cycle is 12 weeks.
    before starting any cycle, it is advisable to have a blood panel done to deterimine your base line test levels. also a good idea to have your liver checked out. also cholestoral. prostate wouldn't be a bad idea, but at 28, that would be "optional"

    AND I don't see any mention of PCT (post cycle therapy). absolute minimum would be 4 weeks of Nolva at 20mg / day. unless you get your bf% down, you will need more of a dose, and for a longer period of time. Some AI would not be a bad idea either. Go to the PCT section and do some reading...

    http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...-CYCLE-THERAPY)

    Good luck

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    First, let me thank you all for your input so far. I was able to read some of the sticky’s and other posts. For the first cycle it appears that most people recommend:

    12 Week Cycle
    Test e – 250-500mg (Twice a week)

    PCT Weeks 12-18:
    Weeks 12-14 HCG 5000ui/w
    Weeks 14-18 Nolva 20/20/20/10/10
    Weeks 14-18 Clomid 25/25/25/25

    A couple follow up questions for you:

    1) What would be a good mg level to take for the test?
    2) Is there effective non injectable test products?
    3) What are the risks of starting a cycle at a higher BF%?
    4) Does the cycle and PCT seem to be in line with a first cycle?

    Thank You

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnieckarz View Post
    First, let me thank you all for your input so far. I was able to read some of the sticky’s and other posts. For the first cycle it appears that most people recommend:

    12 Week Cycle
    Test e – 250-500mg (Twice a week)

    PCT Weeks 12-18:
    Weeks 12-14 HCG 5000ui/w
    Weeks 14-18 Nolva 20/20/20/10/10
    Weeks 14-18 Clomid 25/25/25/25

    A couple follow up questions for you:

    1) What would be a good mg level to take for the test?
    2) Is there effective non injectable test products?
    3) What are the risks of starting a cycle at a higher BF%?
    4) Does the cycle and PCT seem to be in line with a first cycle?

    Thank You
    In short...
    1) 400/500 mg
    2) No
    3) High risk of side effects/more side effects
    4) cycle and pct looks good to me.. I think nolva and clomid are enough.. but if you dont want any testicular atrophy then hcg will work fine...

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    Much better. First suggestion looked like a train wreck waiting to happen,

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    Great, so I am on track with my first cycle then. I guess my last question would be where to obtain quality products to meet the needs of my first cycle?

    Thanks

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    Any suggestions or guidance?

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