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    I come from a family thats antiguns and has always been like that. My brother was a cop, and also worked volunteer EMT at one point and has some interesting opinions about guns.
    But he said the majority of domestic violence cases turned deadly almost always involve a family keeping a gun in the house for "protection". One night the couple gets drunk, or is having problems paying bills, they get into a fight, someone goes to the gun cabinet and shoots the other. And his opinion his that keeping guns in your house is more likely to causes innocent deaths than prevent them. You might have 1 robber break in the neighborhood I live every 10 years. But you have lots of couples and lots of potential of arguements/fights happening. And if everyone kept a gun in their house I think things could really turn ugly.

    People will usually bring up the arguement "guns don't kill people people kill people". And although thats true, you still can't deny that in certain situations if a guns available, someone might die as opposed to just getting assaulted had there been no weapons in the house.
    I think only way I'd keep a gun in my house is if I lived in a poor and dangerous neighborhood like camden. Cause then the chances of robbery/violence usually trump the chances of killing someone in a fit of passion or rage then regretting it later. So although I feel like I'm antiguns I'm still not 100% sure where I stand. I feels more relative to the situation than anything I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearGrillsBears View Post
    I come from a family thats antiguns and has always been like that. My brother was a cop, and also worked volunteer EMT at one point and has some interesting opinions about guns.
    But he said the majority of domestic violence cases turned deadly almost always involve a family keeping a gun in the house for "protection". One night the couple gets drunk, or is having problems paying bills, they get into a fight, someone goes to the gun cabinet and shoots the other. And his opinion his that keeping guns in your house is more likely to causes innocent deaths than prevent them. You might have 1 robber break in the neighborhood I live every 10 years. But you have lots of couples and lots of potential of arguements/fights happening. And if everyone kept a gun in their house I think things could really turn ugly.

    People will usually bring up the arguement "guns don't kill people people kill people". And although thats true, you still can't deny that in certain situations if a guns available, someone might die as opposed to just getting assaulted had there been no weapons in the house.
    I think only way I'd keep a gun in my house is if I lived in a poor and dangerous neighborhood like camden. Cause then the chances of robbery/violence usually trump the chances of killing someone in a fit of passion or rage then regretting it later. So although I feel like I'm antiguns I'm still not 100% sure where I stand. I feels more relative to the situation than anything I think.
    Or if you worked on the set of Jersey Shore so you could end the season real early.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BearGrillsBears View Post
    I come from a family thats antiguns and has always been like that. My brother was a cop, and also worked volunteer EMT at one point and has some interesting opinions about guns.
    But he said the majority of domestic violence cases turned deadly almost always involve a family keeping a gun in the house for "protection". One night the couple gets drunk, or is having problems paying bills, they get into a fight, someone goes to the gun cabinet and shoots the other. And his opinion his that keeping guns in your house is more likely to causes innocent deaths than prevent them. You might have 1 robber break in the neighborhood I live every 10 years. But you have lots of couples and lots of potential of arguements/fights happening. And if everyone kept a gun in their house I think things could really turn ugly.

    People will usually bring up the arguement "guns don't kill people people kill people". And although thats true, you still can't deny that in certain situations if a guns available, someone might die as opposed to just getting assaulted had there been no weapons in the house.
    I think only way I'd keep a gun in my house is if I lived in a poor and dangerous neighborhood like camden. Cause then the chances of robbery/violence usually trump the chances of killing someone in a fit of passion or rage then regretting it later. So although I feel like I'm antiguns I'm still not 100% sure where I stand. I feels more relative to the situation than anything I think.
    Unfortunately, that opinion holds no water when compared with the statistics on gun ownership, violent crime rates, gun deaths, and the amount of times guns are used to save lives.

    According to the FBI, all four violent crime offense categories show declines nationwide for 2010, with murder and manslaughter down 4.4 percent from 2009, robbery down 9.5 percent and aggravated assault down 3.6 percent. Forcible rape was down 4.2 percent. Violent crime declined in all four regions of the country.
    More than 6.2 million citizens are licensed to carry, . . .the NSSF reports that the largest surge in gun sales happened during the years 2008 to 2010.
    So what does this data suggest? It suggests that during a 3 year period that resulted in the largest surge in gun sales in decades, nationwide the FBI reported drops in violent crime across the board. Ergo, more guns did not result in more violent crimes and deaths. Ergo, it would seem that more guns result in less crime, rather then more, and that anecdotal situations as you mentioned above, and other doomsday theories hold no water.

    Additionally, rougly 17,000 people are killed by firearms every year. That number reflects murders, suicides, self-defense, etc. It encompasses all deaths where a firearm was the cause of death in our country. In contrast, the FBI reports that EVERY YEAR firearms are responsible for saving between 1.5-2 MILLION LIVES, EVERY SINGLE YEAR. The FBI also reports that in the majority of those cases, the firearm is never discharged, and the simple presence of that firearm results in saving the lives of innocent citizens.

    We live in a nation of laws, with certain unalienable rights. The Supreme Court has ruled that the police have no duty to protect you and PREVENT crime, they cannot be held liable. We cannot expect citizens that live in a free society as ours, to be left helpless and defenseless because of what "might" happen. We can postulate theories all day long about what may or may not happen, but really all that matters are the cold hard facts. In addition, guns create an equalizing effect. Guns allow women and the elderly a fighting chance against younger or male counterparts who are much stronger and able to overpower them easily. It also turns the tables on situations which involve multiple attackers against one person. The arguments for the legal and lawful ownership of firearms, far outweighs the counter argument, predicated upon a small number of unfortunate incidences, theories of the possible, and rare scenarios.

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