the junior comment was meant for sxxen.

It may be average to you...but i'm an ectomorph. so right now..I have larger than normal muscles on a small bone frame..which looks good. It's not really about weight. it's how much muscle can i put on this frame... I have weighed more in the past(160lbs) but my body fat was around 15 so ..it doesn't look nearly as good as now...my motto is if i am not gaining the strength or muscle then i don't care to put on weight. It has to be relative.. i don't see the point in gaining weight if it will be all fat and look like crap..so i take my time and monitor my body fat levels. if i gain the muscle slow it's ok..165lbs can be accomplished i agree...and when i do..the new mission will be trying to keep it naturally. Unless you are an ectomorph then you don't understand how hard it is for this body type to make gains. Ask any of them.