4 months training, 0 pounds gain...

[alex2399]

I've been training for 4 months now and my weight is still 125 pounds, creatine, weight gainer, whey protein... Its all part of my everyday diet and i'm eating as often and as much as i can.

But now i will start my first enanthate cycle!

What do you guys think i will look like in 2-3 months? What should be my goals in terms of weight and strength?

Thanks

[gixxerboy1]

post what you eat for a day

[alex2399]

1 meal: i big bowl of oatmeal

2nd meal: 1 shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

3rd meal: 6 oz of chicken with vegetables

4th meal: shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

5th meal: same has 3rd meal

and i eat things like cheese, yogurt, potatoes... in the evening

Thats a good day for me if im able to eat all this because i dont have a big appetite

[Honkey_Kong]

I've been training for 4 months now and my weight is still 125 pounds, creatine, weight gainer, whey protein... Its all part of my everyday diet and i'm eating as often and as much as i can.

But now i will start my first enanthate cycle!

What do you guys think i will look like in 2-3 months? What should be my goals in terms of weight and strength?

Thanks

You've been training for 4 months with no gains and you think you're ready for steroids? Go through your everyday diet and while your at it list your training regimen for the week. I mean exercises you do, number of sets and reps. In addition to weight.

And are you developing strength? Or is that null too?

[Honkey_Kong]

1 meal: i big bowl of oatmeal

2nd meal: 1 shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

3rd meal: 6 oz of chicken with vegetables

4th meal: shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

5th meal: same has 3rd meal

and i eat things like cheese, yogurt, potatoes... in the evening

Thats a good day for me if im able to eat all this because i dont have a big appetite

How many grams of protein and how many calories are you getting? I'm getting the impression from your diet that you're not getting enough of either.

Try to forcefeed yourself to the point where the thought of eating makes you feel nauscious.

[gym_junki]

Mate if this is a good day for you I would hate to see what you eat on a bad day, your just not eating enough. No matter how hard you train if you don't give your body the right nutrition it needs you will never grow. And don't just rely on shakes you need proper food

[Honkey_Kong]

Mate if this is a good day for you I would hate to see what you eat on a bad day, your just not eating enough. No matter how hard you train if you don't give your body the right nutrition it needs you will never grow. And don't just rely on shakes you need proper food

I agree with this.

[Tbound]

6oz of chicken?......

[Honkey_Kong]

6oz of chicken?......

For a reference 1lb = 16 oz. 1/2LB = 8oz. he's eating a little over a third of a pound. I don't think that's even enough food for somebody who doesn't workout to sustain a normal healthy bodyweight, much less somebody who is trying to grow.

[alex2399]

Shoulders:

Barbell Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 set 6-8 reps
Power Training:
Heavy Upright Rows, 3 sets of 10,6, 4 reps to failure

Arms:

Standing Barbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Seated Dumbbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Close-Grip Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Standing Triceps Extensions with Barbell 3 sets 6-8 reps

legs:

Squats 5 set 10-12 reps
leg press 4 sets 8-10 reps

lower back:

Power Training
Deadlifts, 3 sets of 10,6,4 reps to failure

Abs:

5 sets of crunch

Chest:

bench press 4 sets 6-8 reps
flys 4 sets 6-8 reps

back:

50 pull ups
bent over rows 3 sets 6-8 reps

each body part 2 times a week except the abs witch i train 4 times a week

[ShadowWarrior646]

you don't eat enough real food. A shake doesn't count as a meal, those shakes need to be on top of a real meal, not as substitutes. You need to basically be constantly eating. Stock up on lean meats, veggies, oats and grains, eggs and nuts, and throw some multi-vitamins in there.
if you can, get a membership to a whole-sale store like sams club or costco. They have fair enough prices on lean chicken and beef, fruits and veggies. Costco is 50$ a yr, dunno about sams.

Take the weight gainer shake after your evening post workout meal, which should be free or at least low fat, so cut the dairy out of the evening munchies, and eat them either in the morning or about noon.

[Honkey_Kong]

you don't eat enough real food. A shake doesn't count as a meal, those shakes need to be on top of a real meal, not as substitutes. You need to basically be constantly eating. Stock up on lean meats, veggies, oats and grains, eggs and nuts, and throw some multi-vitamins in there.
if you can, get a membership to a whole-sale store like sams club or costco. They have fair enough prices on lean chicken and beef, fruits and veggies. Costco is 50$ a yr, dunno about sams.

Take the weight gainer shake after your evening post workout meal, which should be free or at least low fat, so cut the dairy out of the evening munchies, and eat them either in the morning or about noon.

Sam's Club is $40 a year for the basic membership. I think if eating more food is a problem, he should start by cutting out foods that don't offer the more nutritional bang for his buck. Eating foods like potatoes, pastas, steaks (in his case lean isn't an absolute necessity right now), oats, eggs, sausage, etc. I mean once his appetite is developed and he's making gains, then he can fine tune it to a healthier diet.

[gym_junki]

Shoulders:

Barbell Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 set 6-8 reps
Power Training:
Heavy Upright Rows, 3 sets of 10,6, 4 reps to failure

Arms:

Standing Barbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Seated Dumbbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Close-Grip Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Standing Triceps Extensions with Barbell 3 sets 6-8 reps

legs:

Squats 5 set 10-12 reps
leg press 4 sets 8-10 reps

lower back:

Power Training
Deadlifts, 3 sets of 10,6,4 reps to failure

Abs:

5 sets of crunch

Chest:

bench press 4 sets 6-8 reps
flys 4 sets 6-8 reps

back:

50 pull ups
bent over rows 3 sets 6-8 reps

each body part 2 times a week except the abs witch i train 4 times a week

Not enough mate your doing two exercises for chest back and legs lol but that does not matter now because as I said no matter how much you train if you are not eating properly you will never grow

[funkymonk]

1 meal: i big bowl of oatmeal

2nd meal: 1 shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

3rd meal: 6 oz of chicken with vegetables

4th meal: shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein

5th meal: same has 3rd meal

and i eat things like cheese, yogurt, potatoes... in the evening

Thats a good day for me if im able to eat all this because i dont have a big appetite

Meal 3 and 5 are like 300 cals each, tops.
I'm guessing meal 1 is 500 cals in the absolute best case scenario (whole milk, sugar-loaded oatmeal).

That puts you at a scant 1100 cals a day, plus 2 weight gainers, plus the stuff you claim you eat in the evening, which is probably a miniscule amount.

You're eating like a high school cheerleader. If you can't gain without AAS, you're not going to gain with.

Enjoy throwing your endocrine system for a loop, consuming illegal substances, and gaining nothing.

[terraj]

For a reference 1lb = 16 oz. 1/2LB = 8oz. he's eating a little over a third of a pound. I don't think that's even enough food for somebody who doesn't workout to sustain a normal healthy bodyweight, much less somebody who is trying to grow.

That's 36 grams of protein I think. It's the best meal in his diet.

[alex2399]

ok, i get it, basically i'll TRY to double what im eating right now and hopefully i'll gain a few pounds in a couple weeks or maybe months.

[alex2399]

low fat? in my case adding fat should help, no?

[songdog]

Bro aas isno magic cure.Your diet is bad if you put on anything with aas.With your diet you would loose it quick.You need to build a base.Lift for 4 or 5 years you dont get big over nite.No matterwat you do.Sorry bro you are going to have to earn it.Hit the diet section that will be a big boost for you.Once you learn how to eat.You will see the gains.Good luck.

[TheClinch]

125lb? How old are you? You better be 13, if not get a job after school and buy some damn food. More proteins from meats chicken, fish, eggs, beef. More carbs from brown rice, whole wheat pasta. Get fats from peanut butter, fish oils, olive oil, etc.

Thats the game plan learn it, live it, love it!

[TheClinch]

P.S. With your lean body type, when you learn to eat and train you'll build a great looking physique! Go get it!!

[alex2399]

125lb? How old are you? You better be 13, if not get a job after school and buy some damn food. More proteins from meats chicken, fish, eggs, beef. More carbs from brown rice, whole wheat pasta. Get fats from peanut butter, fish oils, olive oil, etc.

Thats the game plan learn it, live it, love it!

I'm 25, school for me is a thing of the past , i have a job and i make 50 000$ per year so its not money the problem, its my appetite... ;-)

[DGK]

sit down and do the math . u want to be consuming 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per body lb per day, so at 125 pounds u want to be eating idealy 250 grams a day, broken up into 6-7 meals. CHeck your diet and u will be on track, sometime eating is harder then the workouts, it becomes a job in itsself. Im so sick of eggs but every morning i eat 4-6 wit a glass of ilk and a bowl of oatmeal. I no longer enjoy eating but when i walk by a window or mirror and see myself i enjoy that..lol

[boz]

Shoulders:

Barbell Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Dumbbell Lateral Raises 3 set 6-8 reps
Power Training:
Heavy Upright Rows, 3 sets of 10,6, 4 reps to failure

Arms:

Standing Barbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Seated Dumbbell Curls 3 sets 6-8 reps
Close-Grip Press 3 sets 6-8 reps
Standing Triceps Extensions with Barbell 3 sets 6-8 reps

legs:

Squats 5 set 10-12 reps
leg press 4 sets 8-10 reps

lower back:

Power Training
Deadlifts, 3 sets of 10,6,4 reps to failure

Abs:

5 sets of crunch

Chest:

bench press 4 sets 6-8 reps
flys 4 sets 6-8 reps

back:

50 pull ups
bent over rows 3 sets 6-8 reps

each body part 2 times a week except the abs witch i train 4 times a week

Even your workout regime is not intense enough, start to strive for 10 reps possibly even 12 in a phew exercises. Really get that pump going in your workouts.

[TheClinch]

I'm 25, school for me is a thing of the past , i have a job and i make 50 000$ per year so its not money the problem, its my appetite... ;-)

Its your ambition ;-)

[vtach12]

Heck, at your weight and age, I would through in a few trips through the Mcd's drive through. With your current diet you will gain nothing on juice. AAS and weight trying are only a catalyst to grow, big amounts of food will be the fuel. It is like only having wood and oxygen and expecting a fire.

[lc1213]

dude i went through the same thing about 4 years ago. i gained a ton of fat and wanted to lose it. dropped down to 174 lbs at 5'11 with about 8% bf in about 8 months with diet and exercise. after i lost the weight, i wanted to build muscle. i started a new weight training regimen but didn't alter the diet to fit the new training regimen. I gained 0 pounds of in 15 months. started doing more research and found that i wasn't eating enough to build muscle. i upped my intake and in the next 15 months i gained roughly 12-15 pounds, naturally at 35 years old.

[TheClinch]

If you aren't strong enough to pack groceries, most stores can deliver.

[Honkey_Kong]

Heck, at your weight and age, I would through in a few trips through the Mcd's drive through. With your current diet you will gain nothing on juice. AAS and weight trying are only a catalyst to grow, big amounts of food will be the fuel. It is like only having wood and oxygen and expecting a fire.

I agree with doing the trips to Mickey D's. I don't think the OP has to worry about eating clean just yet.

By the way OP, do you at least drink glasses of milk every day?

[dec11]

I agree with doing the trips to Mickey D's. I don't think the OP has to worry about eating clean just yet.

By the way OP, do you at least drink glasses of milk every day?

i dunno mate, i still wouldnt encourage anyone to eat that sh1te. full of salt and sugar, seriously unhealthy garbage.

put 100grms of fine cut oats in every shake he takes, great weight gainer and at the top of healthy foods

[yungone501]

Bro aas is a magic cure.Your diet is bad if you put on anything with aas.With your diet you would loose it quick.You need to build a base.Lift for 4 or 5 years you dont get big over nite.No matterwat you do.Sorry bro you are going to have to earn it.Hit the diet section that will be a big boost for you.Once you learn how to eat.You will see the gains.Good luck.

Ok songdog, im gonna keep ridin' ur ass until you stop making these typos when giving advice. Proof read before submitting your response. Aas is NOT a magic cure.

[jackedbatman]

Diet & Training both need a tweak. I started AAS at a young age when I had no idea what I was doing, I made most of my gains not using, after I understood what I was doing to my body, gains are 80% DIET, 10% TRAINING, 10% REST. and with that 10% Training you should be going 5-6 times a week with adequate rest between muscle groups, lots of compound movements, when you go in train 100%, get some motivation it starts by controlling your mind.

[Honkey_Kong]

i dunno mate, i still wouldnt encourage anyone to eat that sh1te. full of salt and sugar, seriously unhealthy garbage.

put 100grms of fine cut oats in every shake he takes, great weight gainer and at the top of healthy foods

It's not healthy, but how much damage can a cheeseburger do to somebody who weighs a buck twenty? I think the benefits will outweigh the cons at least on the short term.

[TheClinch]

Two thumbs way F!cking down to McSquirts food. You want higher fat, carb and protein foods eat a 16oz steak and 2 cups of whole wheat pasta! The high sodium of that nasty food will make you lethargic feeling.

[Honkey_Kong]

Two thumbs way F!cking down to McSquirts food. You want higher fat, carb and protein foods eat a 16oz steak and 2 cups of whole wheat pasta! The high sodium of that nasty food will make you lethargic feeling.

Thanks for mentioning steak.... Now I'm just drooling over the thought of a nice juicy porterhouse and my meals are already planned out through tomorrow....

[TheClinch]

Mmm porterhouse

[jasc]

Ya bro.. you need to eat.. I used to be in the same boat as you when I was in college, my weight wasn't quite that low, but same body type. I busted my ass in the gym, took a handful of supplements, and ate healthy. I got considerably stronger, but could never gain weight. I figured it was genetics and would take more creatine or whatever I thought might help. Took me a long time to realize, but my problem the whole time was that I wasn't eating near enough. I had a good amount of protein, a lot from shakes, nowhere near enough carbs and at the end of the day, even with substantial protein, I was barely getting in enough calories to maintain. Takes time, patience, and a hell of a lot of will power to start a new diet and stick to it. For weeks you will have to eat when you're not hungry, you won't enjoy eating chicken/eggs/oats constantly, and its tempting to skip a meal here or there or hit some fast food. But after a few weeks your body will adjust and once you start seeing those results you have been looking for, its the greatest feeling in the world.

[lovbyts]

I'm 25, school for me is a thing of the past , i have a job and i make 50 000$ per year so its not money the problem, its my appetite... ;-)

Hell I make 100K+ and money is still a problem for me. It's never enough.

I agree with you and everyone else, you need to eat. Dont stuff yourself. Learn to eat constantly. Learn to never eat carbs and fats together. Eat real food, shakes dont count except for quick recovery after working out. Lots of chicken, lean meats etc.

[DGK]

Although the op could def benefit from a few trips a week through a drive thru, i personnaly dont reccomend anyone get into that habit. I did when i wsa starting out well bc i was massively small from surgeries and other shit, By the time it was time for me to eat 100 percent clean it was so much harder to break the habit. Start right from the beginning and it wil b easier. I allow myself one cheat day a week where i will eat pizza or some chocolate or a donut or 2 but for the most part eating is a chore. From cooking, to portioning to finding the time to eat every 2-3 hrs, to even actually forcing the food down. I dont think any of us actually eat to enjoy anymore , we just eat to fuel the machines we are building. Also op while whey and protein shakes are good sources of protein i only drink em hen i have missed a meal or am running low on my protein count. For the most part all my protein comes from chicken, eggs, peanut butter etccc real food.

[baseline_9]

1 meal: i big bowl of oatmeal Add a scoop of whey protein once its cooked

2nd meal: 1 shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein Make this a real meal like meal 3

3rd meal: 6 oz of chicken with vegetables Add some complex carbs... rice, potatoes, pasta etc... shoot for 60-80g of carbs...

4th meal: shake of weight gainer mixed with whey protein If you must! Why not just blend a tub of cottage cheese, add 1 scoop of whey and 100g of raw oats... that makes it a real meal

5th meal: same has 3rd meal Good, with changes I have pointed out

and i eat things like cheese, yogurt, potatoes... in the evening Why? Cheese and yoghurt?

Add a meal, Lean Red Meat and Brown rice is good here with some broccoli... 6oz Beef, 50-100g Rice

Thats a good day for me if im able to eat all this because i dont have a big appetite

U need to eat if you want to grow.... Make some of thos changes and watch the scale....

How tall are you?

[dec11]

It's not healthy, but how much damage can a cheeseburger do to somebody who weighs a buck twenty? I think the benefits will outweigh the cons at least on the short term.

he'd still be much better off eating proper healthy food, i wouldnt give McD's to a dog.

theres no benefits from a shed load of fat, sugar and salt