First cycle assessment..Am I good to go or not?

[The-Juice]

Hello all. As I already introduced myself in the new male members section. I am considering running my first cycle for various reasons which are
1. I feel as if my genetic potential is reached if not very close (further explained farther down)
2. I turned down a cycle that I actually purchased when i was 19 and looked on here before (thankfully) which steered me put down the vial, pick up the computer like you all preach and further educated myself for 3 years on eating, bulking/cutting, and of course...gear until I felt the time was right.

Now I feel as if I am ready for you all to assess me in a "putting yourself in my shoes" type of manner.

I will give you all that i've seen that is needed for this and more.

STATS:

Age: 22 (I am already aware this is a little young but stick with me)

Height: 5'6"

Weight: 180 pounds

Bodyfat: ~10%

Here is me when I was 12.5% BF a couple months ago..
[ATTACH=CONFIG]117***[/ATTACH]

Experience: 4 years with no more than a week break, 6 years total experience

Diet experience/discipline: I have done strict dieting for the past ~1.5-2 years which entails strict meals (actual food, weight, etc) and strict timing as much as my college classes permit.

Here is a sample of my daily diet right now...Its for natural bodybuilding so yes its going to be less calories, protein and carbs than would be if I were cycling.

7:00am
1 scoop whey protein shake with milk to bumpstart metabolism and feed muscles ASAP

8:00am
2 whole eggs, 6 whites
1 cup whole oats

10am
1 can tuna in water
protein bar

12am
10oz flank steak
Medium yam
Greek yogurt

3pm -preworkout meal
2peices whole grain bread
turkey
3 fig newtons

5:30pm
post workout weight gainer shake

6:30pm postworkout meal
10oz chicken breast
2 cups brown long grain rice

8:30pm
Tuna or Chicken breast

10pm
2 scoops casein

*1.5-2 gallons of water per day


So here is the bottom line...I had blood work done and my readings came back that I only had 394 on a average scale of 249-836. I feel this is low for a 22 year old and I know a lot of guys preach my level should be outrageous at this age naturally. That being said along with a couple other factors I feel as if I have rationed the best I can naturally and I want to consider a cycle. I feel like lifting, and hardcore dieting is pissing in the wind with lousy T levels like that...I feel like I could be a lot better off with a cycle.

What do you guys think? Please no flaming!

[cbr07]

What kind of a cycle you looking at. I would recommend test only for your first.

[The-Juice]

Yessir. Test E is all im interested in cycling. 400mg/week is what I was thinking.

What kind of a cycle you looking at. I would recommend test only for your first.

[mephisto212]

Nice ... Your pic looks great ! How long have ya been cutting ? And as for gear , have u researched ? Got a pct ? What's your goal for the cycle ?

[cbr07]

I would go 500mg most vials are 250mg/ml so it would be a lot easier for ya to do 250mg twice a week. But other then that you just need to get your pct lined up before you pin anything. With all the problems people are having getting ahold of their pct I would say that's priority. Goodluck bro

[The-Juice]

Nice ... Your pic looks great ! How long have ya been cutting ? And as for gear , have u researched ? Got a pct ? What's your goal for the cycle ?

Thank you! Ive been doing a mild cut (still have steak in my diet) for about 3 months. I have researched this site up and down it seems. I feel I know a great deal about them but hey we can always learn more. Yes I have no problem getting a pct into place. I want to get everyones input on my situation before I spend a dollar though. My goal is to do a clean bulk then by the time spring rolls around I can have a low BF of 7-8% and most importantly I want to increase my big 3... deadlift, squat, and bench.

[Doctapeppa]

What are you asking? You want a blessing? I'd say still too young. What are your numbers now on deadlift, squat and bench?

[mephisto212]

Honestly ... Your at about 10-11 percent going down to 7-8 is hard but not impossible ... Your 180 at 5'6 thats great size I would really try to cut the next two months with cardio and diet and see how it goes ... As for gear of I were u I would def wait till 24+ , your body as is is pretty good and u can get great physique natty , also I am not a doctor but low test shouldn't incline u to use gear... But I thin it's really up to you... What ever u decide good luck :-)

[The-Juice]

What are you asking? You want a blessing? I'd say still too young. What are your numbers now on deadlift, squat and bench?

Im looking for a sense of direction being that they will take all of the things above that I posted into consideration and give me their opinion.

Straightbar Deadlift= 405x3
Squat= 325x10
Bench= 315x1

[im83931]

i still think you're too young. But if you do this make sure you have pct ready before you begin your cycle.

[im83931]

I would go 500mg most vials are 250mg/ml so it would be a lot easier for ya to do 250mg twice a week. But other then that you just need to get your pct lined up before you pin anything. With all the problems people are having getting ahold of their pct I would say that's priority. Goodluck bro

Why would you encourage someone to do more than necessary. 400 will get good results. And some labs dose it at 200 mg/ml Even if it is 250 mg/ml all he has to do is use 0.6 ml for each shot.

[The-Juice]

Why would you encourage someone to do more than necessary. 400 will get good results. And some labs dose it at 200 mg/ml Even if it is 250 mg/ml all he has to do is use 0.6 ml for each shot.

Thank you for your reply. Im only 5'6" 180 so in my own opinion I feel like 400 is like a 500mg starting dose for the average size person (190-210lbs).

[The-Juice]

i still think you're too young. But if you do this make sure you have pct ready before you begin your cycle.

I have no problem getting a pct and im going to go the extra mile to assure I have a very effective pct. HCG and Nolva and a definite and Letro for any possible gyno problems on cycle..

[SufferToReturnHarder]

I would go 500mg most vials are 250mg/ml so it would be a lot easier for ya to do 250mg twice a week. But other then that you just need to get your pct lined up before you pin anything. With all the problems people are having getting ahold of their pct I would say that's priority. Goodluck bro

Just because you would go 500 doesn't mean he should. Go with a nice beginning dose of 400, or even lower if you want. You should see great gains from that. Your seem to have your diet in check, and as you mentioned yourself, up those cals. Yes your young, and I'm not encouraging you to cycle, but you seem to have your stuff straight. Like everone else here has mentioned, get your pct and ais first, and do all your research mate. I feel you'll be gtg.

[The-Juice]

Just because you would go 500 doesn't mean he should. Go with a nice beginning dose of 400, or even lower if you want. You should see great gains from that. Your seem to have your diet in check, and as you mentioned yourself, up those cals. Yes your young, and I'm not encouraging you to cycle, but you seem to have your stuff straight. Like everone else here has mentioned, get your pct and ais first, and do all your research mate. I feel you'll be gtg.

Thank you for the thoughtful response bud. I agree with you, and I most of all appreciate that you noticed my attempt to convey my knowledge to you guys. When making the thread I tried to give you all that was needed so I didn't seem like just another guy asking to cycle...

[War729]

Def do 500 a week of test or sus and stack with deca 600 a week as well. You want 2ml per pound you have. You have a great base so 12weeks of this and 15lbs of mass should be expected. I'd consider that big gains on your frame

[Windex]

Too young, if you can achieve that physique through your current diet then definitely stay away from AAS for a few more years. Your diet is in need of a lot of work in my opinion and should be posted in our diet section to be modified + improved.

[The-Juice]

Too young, if you can achieve that physique through your current diet then definitely stay away from AAS for a few more years. Your diet is in need of a lot of work in my opinion and should be posted in our diet section to be modified + improved.

Will do. Thank you for your response..So, hypothetically if I were to get blood work done a year from now and find that my test levels have decreased slightly wouldn't this say my levels have reached their peak already? I feel like this 23 to 25 year old starting age is misleading because someone isn't magically ready to cycle the day they turn 23 or 25. Don't take it personal im just trying to learn here but you've also gotta see my view.

[Windex]

Will do. Thank you for your response..So, hypothetically if I were to get blood work done a year from now and find that my test levels have decreased slightly wouldn't this say my levels have reached their peak already? I feel like this 23 to 25 year old starting age is misleading because someone isn't magically ready to cycle the day they turn 23 or 25. Don't take it personal im just trying to learn here but you've also gotta see my view.

Not necessarily. Hormone levels fluctuate. I get bloodwork done bi-monthly and the numbers are always within 5-10% of each other.

[randymeans]

good thing come with time, wait a few more years! i thought i was done growin at 24 and now im 25yr old and25lbs heavier at 5'7" 190lbs

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Def do 500 a week of test or sus and stack with deca 600 a week as well. You want 2ml per pound you have. You have a great base so 12weeks of this and 15lbs of mass should be expected. I'd consider that big gains on your frame

No. Don't listen to this guy.

[The-Juice]

good thing come with time, wait a few more years! i thought i was done growin at 24 and now im 25yr old and25lbs heavier at 5'7" 190lbs

Thank you for the response. Looks like im steering more towards waiting at least another year...It kills me though. Im looking to compete someday and I have a feeling when I finish college and get a full-time job..available time to eat perfectly, train for hours, and get a full 8+ hours of sleep is going to be far out of my reach.

[gixxerboy1]

Def do 500 a week of test or sus and stack with deca 600 a week as well. You want 2ml per pound you have. You have a great base so 12weeks of this and 15lbs of mass should be expected. I'd consider that big gains on your frame

please dont listen to this post

[BG]

If your stuck on doing it go with 400mgs or less. You have done well, I would get bf a little lower. If do it, just make sure to take plenty of time off after pct. You have plenty of time to get big. Less is more.

[dec11]

Im looking for a sense of direction being that they will take all of the things above that I posted into consideration and give me their opinion.

Straightbar Deadlift= 405x3
Squat= 325x10
Bench= 315x1

you could be lifting way more in that squat and dlift without juice

[dec11]

Def do 500 a week of test or sus and stack with deca 600 a week as well. You want 2ml per pound you have. You have a great base so 12weeks of this and 15lbs of mass should be expected. I'd consider that big gains on your frame

that is not good advice at all

[The-Juice]

If your stuck on doing it go with 400mgs or less. You have done well, I would get bf a little lower. If do it, just make sure to take plenty of time off after pct. You have plenty of time to get big. Less is more.

Thank you for the reply BG. I have time before I am going to run if I do. I am thinking spring time so I will have no problem getting my BF down to 7 or 8%. I can cut pretty easily. For a person my size what dose would you recommend for a mild gain like 10 to 15 retainable pounds?