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    hey bro if you are deadset on cycling now id just run a moderate test cycle at 500mg/week. run test enanthate, two injections per week(mon/thurs), use 20guage needles to draw and 25guage to inject. 12 week cycle, wait two weeks then run your pct. for pct i recommend toremifene. you can get it thru research chem sites. 120mg the first week, 90mg the second, 60mg the third week, and 30mg the fourth and final week. shoot me a pm if you need some help

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2grams perk week View Post
    hey bro if you are deadset on cycling now id just run a moderate test cycle at 500mg/week. run test enanthate, two injections per week(mon/thurs), use 20guage needles to draw and 25guage to inject. 12 week cycle, wait two weeks then run your pct. for pct i recommend toremifene. you can get it thru research chem sites. 120mg the first week, 90mg the second, 60mg the third week, and 30mg the fourth and final week. shoot me a pm if you need some help
    man dont, just dont. great 1st post. at 18 he is not ready for this.........

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    listing your weight with a 15 lb gap tells me that your diet is not in check. at 18 you got the world by the balls hit the nutrition section and watch yourself grow like a weed for a few years then when you have a decent base you could go with a test only cycle

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    listing your weight with a 15 lb gap tells me that your diet is not in check. at 18 you got the world by the balls hit the nutrition section and watch yourself grow like a weed for a few years then when you have a decent base you could go with a test only cycle
    Spot on. Yep... i weigh ... 210- 225! I make like 45,000- 250,000 a year as well.

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    the considered safe age is 25. its up to the discretion of longterm members here as to whether or not they advise guys in their early 20's but i doubt any will advise an 18yr old. you can make alot of ground without AAS, you have an abundance of natty test in your system, i know i grew like a weed in my 1st 3yrs of training when i was around your age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    the considered safe age is 25. its up to the discretion of longterm members here as to whether or not they advise guys in their early 20's but i doubt any will advise an 18yr old. you can make alot of ground without AAS, you have an abundance of natty test in your system, i know i grew like a weed in my 1st 3yrs of training when i was around your age.
    listen bro i agree with you. however you and i both know that an 18year old guy is hard headed and stubborn. do i think he should start cycling at that age? no, unless he plans to try and reach national level/pro status as a bodybuilder.

    do i think he is goin to change his mind because a few guys wont give him the info he's askin for on here? no, he will either do it anyway and **** himself up, or go seek the info elsewhere.

    i guess my view on it is that most likely he's goin to do it anyway, so id rather guide him thru the process so he is doing it correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2grams per week View Post
    listen bro i agree with you. however you and i both know that an 18year old guy is hard headed and stubborn. do i think he should start cycling at that age? no, unless he plans to try and reach national level/pro status as a bodybuilder.

    do i think he is goin to change his mind because a few guys wont give him the info he's askin for on here? no, he will either do it anyway and **** himself up, or go seek the info elsewhere.

    i guess my view on it is that most likely he's goin to do it anyway, so id rather guide him thru the process so he is doing it correctly.
    incorrect, he is too young at 18.

    and care to explain why you've two accounts on here?

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