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    pro hormones

    Why are PHs regarded as worse than a real steroid?

    Are PHs dangerous if only taken for a four week cycle with liver support?

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    because they are unregulated or tested
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    thanks gixxer

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    Unregulated....explain that to me like I'm a six year old

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    Unregulated....is this another way of saying its unsure what I'm putting in my body?

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    The only reason I ask is I'm 2 weeks into a 4 week cycle. Just trying to education myself as much as possible. Thanks in advance!

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    yes so pretty much they can put anything and everything into those capsules. And there is nothing to check how it effects your body. Once they are caught they are pulled of the shelves
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Gixer, I'm taking this product called "Tren-Storm"

    13ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2, 5(10)-diene-17-one, -20mg Anadrosta-1-end-3b-ol, 17b-one, -75g

    These are some of the listed ingredients. Are you or is anyone familiar with this list if ingredients?

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    ^^^ bonaparte is probably better to answer about the chemicals
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Some of them have been noted for some for the side effects out weighing the benefits.
    There were a few good ones out there though that were not really pro hormones but
    designer oral steroids. 4 weeks with liver support depending the PH should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deangelo295 View Post
    Gixer, I'm taking this product called "Tren-Storm"

    13ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2, 5(10)-diene-17-one, -20mg Anadrosta-1-end-3b-ol, 17b-one, -75g

    These are some of the listed ingredients. Are you or is anyone familiar with this list if ingredients?
    The first one is methoxydienone - (in max lmg)
    The second (which is incorrect btw) is 1 dhea - found in a buch of stuff - 2 step conversion PH ...

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    The first is max-lmg, I believe. It is a non-toxic progestin.
    IDK what the second one is, but I'd guess it is some new weak dht-derivative or steroidal ai.

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    So based on what you guys see here no issues if I do it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deangelo295 View Post
    The only reason I ask is I'm 2 weeks into a 4 week cycle. Just trying to education myself as much as possible. Thanks in advance!
    No offense but the education prob should have taken place before you are half way through the cycle!!
    IMO its hard to run a proper strctly ph cycle at the moment with no effective test base ph.....

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    No offense taken. Even you took something for the first time without proper education. And I'm sure you'd agree. That's what this forum is for .....education for the ignorant.

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    Also just because I'm asking more questions now doesn't mean I didn't ask them when I bought it. You just never ask all the questions you need to ask right then and there.

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    You should show a lil respect there bro.That guy forgot more about cycling than you will ever know.Not trying to be a wise guy but he knows his sh1t!

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    Which is why I'm on the forum asking him the question! There was nothing disrespectful in anything I said. Just fact man.

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    So basically pro-hormones are a bastardisation of a steroid? If your gonna buy a PH you may as well get the real thing? Is that the facts on PHs?

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    dont know if id call it a bastardization but yes if you are going to do something do the real thing.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Thanks again Gixxer. I'm new to anything beyond your normal preworkout supplements. I definitely wanted to raise the quality of my workouts at age 39. I wanted to try something new.

    TDx4

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    when your ready a test only cycle would be your best bet
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    What is a test only cycle? A steroid?

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    testosterone. and by only i meant just testosterone
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    How would one go about getting that? Doctors prescription?

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    You need to find your own supplier.

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    Got it.

    TDx4

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    Whats with the little "TDx4" at the end of your posts?

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    4 kids man. Why does it bother you? LOL

    TDx4

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    Quote Originally Posted by deangelo295 View Post
    4 kids man. Why does it bother you? LOL

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    i dont get it

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    TD are my initials and I have four kids. How bout now?

    TDx4

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    Quote Originally Posted by deangelo295 View Post
    TD are my initials and I have four kids. How bout now?

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    yep i get it now

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    Quote Originally Posted by deangelo295 View Post
    No offense taken. Even you took something for the first time without proper education. And I'm sure you'd agree. That's what this forum is for .....education for the ignorant.
    Honestly ive never taken anything for two weeks that i didnt know what was in it, if it was safe, or totally knowing all of what it would do to me. Never.
    Based on your description you are in the right place.
    Now you need to figure out if your 4 weeks dance with this mystery in a bottle you chose to take not knowing basic info about like i outlined above has or will shut down (loook it up) your natural test production and if so what you should do about it.
    I recommend you find out how suppressive (look it up) it is and if you need to do a pct (look that up also)
    Ive never taken those 2 substances so while I have some idea as to these answers i honestly cant tell you firsthand. Im not one for stabbing in the dark, I like to be prudent with my advice (and other things- like what i ingest) so maybe someone else will chime in .

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    I would get blood work done, so you can know for sure if you need to do a proper pct and what your levels are currently.
    Go read about it in the forum section...and read every RED section at the top of this page and many others. You will learn alot and still ahve questions which will be fine..but your understanding of our answers will be beneficial to you and us

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