Simple Simons Starter cycle

[DanB]

guys forget the 10kgs, it a pipe dream, just something i want to eventually "AIM" for, and nothing to do with getting my cycle in check.

i already have sorted out my diet, im 40 so lean gains are hard without aas, im not keen on putting on massive amounts of fat to reach a target so i have to lose it again, i see alot of guys with 25% body fat starting cycles and they woul have nowhere near the lean muscle im carrying. The whole point of embarking on a bulking cycle is so i can bulk , hence the reason i started this thread. If i could have done so with food and training i already would have.

im 5 foot 11 and as of this morning 174lbs, mere months away from reaching 185lbs as stated previously

i will be starting a cycle eventually- i just wanted to make sure i have all bases covered so i dont damage my endocrine system etc.

as far as the "your'e not eating right- get your diet in sorted out "responses-- well why do you all take steroids for? maybe you should review your own diets and not take any gear??

no offence to all posters- but i wasnt asking for permission - just advice

not wanting to upset anyone- hope i havent.

that just shows your clueless and your in no posistion to advise anybody to check their own diet when you clearly dont even understand the concept of sport/bodybuilding nutrition

and for the first comment in bold, do you think steroids are magic and will turn you into a bodybuilder and you just eat what you like?

how you going to grow without food? food can only take you so far hence need for steroids, thats a blanketstatement there is also many other factors which i cant be bothered to discuss with you now after your arrogance

you still havnt got the food right hence 5'11 174lbs at 16%, your trying to get a r1 before you can cycle a pushbike

read this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

best of luck im out