First Cycle Advice Please

[bizzyp]

Hey everyone, I would like to start my first AAS cycle sometime this summer. I've done a bunch of research the past few months and here is what I think would be best for me. Please give me your opinions on what I could do to make my first cycle more beneficial for my body and health.

Age: 22 (I have chosen to postpone the cycle until I am older, I still want to perfect it though)
Weight: 235
Body Fat: approximately 15%
Weight Training Experience: approximately 5+ years

Weeks 1 - 4: Dianabol 100 mg ed
Weeks 1 - 12: Test E 250 mg twice a week (mon/thurs)
Weeks 1 - 12: Arimidex 0.5 mg eod (whether needed or not, plan to run through the whole cycle)

PCT:

Week 14: Nolvadex 40 mg ed & Clomid 100 mg ed
Week 15: Nolvadex 40 mg ed & Clomid 100 mg ed
Week 16: Nolvadex 20 mg ed & Clomid 50 mg ed
Week 17: Nolvadex 20 mg ed & Clomid 50 mg ed

Supplements: Protein/Creatine Hydrochloride/Vitamin B6 (while on cycle)

Also, I was considering running HCG in between the end of my cycle and PCT but due to the fact it needs to be refrigerated, it would be difficult to do given my living conditions. Will not using HCG be a problem?

Let me know what you think. I've noticed some of the members here are very critical. I am looking for all honest and sincere advice. My aim here is to end this post with a perfect cycle that will be safe and healthy for my body while maximizing gains. Thank you.

[JohnnyVegas]

235 @ 15% would make you pretty huge unless you are very tall. How tall are you? Are you already that big naturally?

We need to know how many mg/ml to know how much .8ml of Test is.

You will find that most everyone here will not give much advice to someone that is 22.

[bizzyp]

Im 6 foot 3 and yes this is my size naturally
0.8 ml of test is approximately 250 mg
I would appreciate any advice

[wesholcomb80]

Give it a few more years, eat smart and workout hard for now.

[songdog]

Do to the health risks involved in cycling.We dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.

[fontazya]

Bro ur already a big boy if those stats are correct and ur still pretty young.. honestly wait another 2 years u will be very thankful u did..

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board mate!
Personally, I'd wait a couple more years til your hormonal system fully matures. Has nothing to do with physique or years spent in the gym. Your body just needs a little more time developing. Waiting til then reduces some of the risk of potential health problems down the road, such as ED, depression, and a variety of others. You can search this board to find out more.
BTW... first cycles should always be test only. Using a scientific approach, only introduce one unknown variable into an equation at a time. Once you've done a test only cycle, and get comfortable with it, knowing what it does by itself to your body, then you can understand the impact stacking other items with it has on your body. Additionally, if something goes wrong, you know it isn't the test if you've already had one successful test only cycle previously. You should be very cautious with what you put in your body, and not to treat it like it's some kind of crap shoot!
Good luck!
---Roman

[bizzyp]

Hey guys, thanks for the kind advice and welcome. I've decided to try and perfect my routine and diet for the next bit and hold off the AAS cycle. Ill look into posting in the other sections for nutrition advice, etc. However, for purely informational purposes is this a good first cycle? I've spent some time researching and want to know if I've made any crucial mistakes.

In response to Times Roman, I am only taking the Dianabol for four weeks to kick start my cycle and maximize gains, I will get off it after the fourth week which will be around when the test E actually starts coming into play (if I am correct).

Even though I won't be utilizing this cycle now, I would like to still perfect it.

Questions:

If I was to add HCG should I use it on cycle? If yes how much and until when? If not, I'd only use it in between the cycle and PCT and how much?

Is my PCT correct and healthy?

[Trainwiser]

Do to the health risks involved in cycling.We dont give cycle advice to anyone under 25.

I dont agree with this, yes I am currently under 25 but if someone has their minds made up they are gonna do it regardless of what most older cats advise. In turn without a little help, the user can potentially just hurt themselves even more because of people like you that are so against it that you cant give your opinion and then lend a helping hand.

[Razor]

hold off, your reap the rewards later in life for doing so.

[Andigity]

Hey guys, thanks for the kind advice and welcome. I've decided to try and perfect my routine and diet for the next bit and hold off the AAS cycle. Ill look into posting in the other sections for nutrition advice, etc. However, for purely informational purposes is this a good first cycle? I've spent some time researching and want to know if I've made any crucial mistakes.

In response to Times Roman, I am only taking the Dianabol for four weeks to kick start my cycle and maximize gains, I will get off it after the fourth week which will be around when the test E actually starts coming into play (if I am correct).

Even though I won't be utilizing this cycle now, I would like to still perfect it.

Questions:

If I was to add HCG should I use it on cycle? If yes how much and until when? If not, I'd only use it in between the cycle and PCT and how much?

Is my PCT correct and healthy?

For purely information purposes your PCT is bad. Run nolva and clomid together. Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50/25/25 would be much better. You should start hcg 4 weeks before the end of your cycle. Just hold off a little longer and you'll be really happy you did. Unless of course you don't like using your penis.

[dooie]

For purely information purposes your PCT is bad. Run nolva and clomid together. Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 Clomid 100/100/50/50/25/25 would be much better. You should start hcg 4 weeks before the end of your cycle. Just hold off a little longer and you'll be really happy you did. Unless of course you don't like using your penis.

No need for a 6 week PCT of just test for 12 weeks. 4 is fine, nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50,

[bizzyp]

To the senior members: I have decided to postpone doing any AAS until I am older

I appreciate the advice regarding my age and have taken this into account. However, I would like to focus on perfecting this cycle. Please do not focus on the age aspect anymore as I will NOT be taking any AAS. Any advice on the cycle would be great as I would like to gain more knowledge in this area. Currently I have updated the PCT to what dooie suggested.

Questions:

1. Is the updated PCT good?
2. In regards to adding HCG to the cycle, what do you guys suggest?
3. Is the dosage of Dianabol, Test E and Arimidex in the cycle suggested? Is it smart to take arimidex at 0.5 mg e/od throughout he whole cycle regardless of whether side effects are experienced?
4. Am I missing anything else?

Thank you.

[Razor]

your not going to get any help but caution that you should not be doing this at 22.

[bizzyp]

your not going to get any help but caution that you should not be doing this at 22.

Razr did you miss this?:

To the senior members: I have decided to postpone doing any AAS until I am older

[Razor]

Haha I did, sorry brother. Good call and very wise.
You have done yourself a great favor and will pay off later in life, trust me.

[The Titan99]

To the senior members: I have decided to postpone doing any AAS until I am older

I appreciate the advice regarding my age and have taken this into account. However, I would like to focus on perfecting this cycle. Please do not focus on the age aspect anymore as I will NOT be taking any AAS. Any advice on the cycle would be great as I would like to gain more knowledge in this area. Currently I have updated the PCT to what dooie suggested.

Questions:

1. Is the updated PCT good?
2. In regards to adding HCG to the cycle, what do you guys suggest?
3. Is the dosage of Dianabol, Test E and Arimidex in the cycle suggested? Is it smart to take arimidex at 0.5 mg e/od throughout he whole cycle regardless of whether side effects are experienced?
4. Am I missing anything else?

Thank you.

First, everyone knows exactly what your going to do. It's rather insulting to brush off the most crucial advice by just saying, "I'm not going to do it, just tell me how to do it."
Aside from missing the main point, your missing:

Your missing HCG.
Your running 2 compounds (regardless of what they are and duration of use, it's just plain stupid. Drop the dbol.
Dbol at 100 mg ed is WAY too much.
There it is, the perfected cycle your "Not" going to run...lol.

[bizzyp]

Ahaha thank you Titan99. I actually won't be running this cycle. I overlooked the serious side effects of AAS and have decided to work on my natural gains before seriously considering doing a cycle. This information is purely for my own interest and to really sum up what I've figured out so far.

In regards to HCG, what would you suggest I do with this cycle? Also, do you think I should (hypothetically) still drop the dbol since it is very short term (to kickstart the cycle only)? Even if I should drop it, what would be a better dose for the purpose of kickstarting the Test E?

Thank you for the advice.

[The Titan99]

HCG at 250 i.u.'s twice a week from the beginning right up to the day before PCT.

Do you understand why you want to run Test only for your first cycle? If not, reread post # 7. Then drop the dbol.

There, my work is done here. Perfect advice for a cycle that will not be run... Now I'm going to cook a cheese souffle and then throw it in the garbage since it will ruin my diet, then I can begin my EQ only cutting cycle...

[Razor]

Eq cutting cycle? Yuk.. why not run some winny or primo or mast with some test?

[The Titan99]

Sarcasm. Sorry. Cycle not run, food cooked and not eaten...similar to an EQ cycle. Pointless... Really running Test A/Tren A/Drost P/tbol in May... Can't wait!!

[bizzyp]

Thank you Titan99. I know in a beginner/first cycle you should use only test so you can see how it affects you. The reason I chose to kickstart the cycle with dbol was because of stickied threads in the education subforum like the one named "test beginner cycle info" (I couldn't provide a link because I am a new member). Also, it was suggested on the main page for this website (steroids.com) under the beginner cycles section that it is optional to kickstart a cycle with dbol in order to maximize gains.

[Razor]

Sarcasm. Sorry. Cycle not run, food cooked and not eaten...similar to an EQ cycle. Pointless... Really running Test A/Tren A/Drost P/tbol in May... Can't wait!!

Oooooolaalaa anytime someone says tbol I wet my pants

[The Titan99]

I know!! Just the best oral ever. It makes Var seem like Proviron!!

[The Titan99]

Thank you Titan99. I know in a beginner/first cycle you should use only test so you can see how it affects you. The reason I chose to kickstart the cycle with dbol was because of stickied threads in the education subforum like the one named "test beginner cycle info" (I couldn't provide a link because I am a new member). Also, it was suggested on the main page for this website (steroids.com) under the beginner cycles section that it is optional to kickstart a cycle with dbol in order to maximize gains.

Well, you asked and I told you... It's like having 2 chics the first time you have sex. You definitely don't need it and it could ruin the whole thing!!

[bizzyp]

Ahahaha, good way to put it in perspective. Thanks everyone for your advice.

[JonnyConcrete]

Well, you asked and I told you... It's like having 2 chics the first time you have sex. You definitely don't need it and it could ruin the whole thing!!

LOL, what a shout

[fontazya]

Oooooolaalaa anytime someone says tbol I wet my pants

LOL is tbol really that good?? starting it in about a week cant wait!