
Originally Posted by
Atomini
Adderall IS amphetamine! Adderall is a mixture of 75% Dextroamphetamine and 15% Levoamphetamine. The XR variant includes 2 different types of Dextroamphetamine: saccharate and sulfate. Within Adderall XR also includes: amphetamine aspartate and sulfate.
I was diagnosed with ADD when I was a child. However, never used any synthetic medications due to the fact that because I was under 18 I had no say in how my condition was to be treated, and my parents did not want to take the medicated route. However, a little over a year ago I asked my doctor for Adderall and i've been using it ever since (XR, as that is the only available one in Canada - we don't have immediate release here). I don't use it every day, but only when I really need it. If I find my focus and motivation wandering severely on a particular day or something, i'll take 20mg. Amphetamines all have fat loss effects, HOWEVER, most of the weight loss reported by people using it is likely from:
1. Its dehydration effects
2. Its appetite suppressive effects
Ephedrine, Clenbuterol, Caffeine, Amphetamines, etc. are all related to one another in the same family. Ephedrine is actually a key ingredient in the production of Methamphetamine. But i'm not going to get into that, lol. In the end, it all depends on the dose you are using (obviously). I use 20mg when required. I don't believe 20mg is enough to elicit any noticeable fat loss, even when taken on a regular basis. I have heard of some extremely severe cases of ADD where the person was perscribed upwards of 120mg per day (yes, this is pretty extreme). Would the person see fat loss effects there? Yeah, likely. But that's pretty extreme, as I said. The most i've ever taken was 60mg and that was quite a kick. You're asking for trouble when you start to rove around or above 80mg. For those who are perscribed that much or more, it is obviously determined by the person's doctor that they require that much for whatever reason. And the goal here is not fat loss, lol.
If you want fat loss, look into ECA or Clen, or any other fat burning compound. Adderall, although it posesses some fat burning properties, is not as efficient for this purpose as other compounds are. There ARE some actual significant anabolic effects to Adderall but I am absolutely not going to get into that or discuss the details of this at all, lest we have a bunch of morons who start taking amphetamines recreationally thinking that they're going to bulk up because of a few little details I mentioned.
I have something to say about this. I understand that you tried Adderall and that you didn't enjoy it, but calling it poison? One could easily call AAS 'poison', but i'm sure you'd disagree! When it comes to Adderall or any ADD assisting medications, it all depends on how you use it and not every med is for everyone. I'm sure you'd agree with me on that if I said the same thing about AAS. Everything has the potential to do harm or good. From all my years studying life sciences, work as a personal trainer, involved in the gym and fitness world, etc., I can unequivocally say: everything is bad for you, and at the same time everything is good for you.
I was perscribed adderall because I was diagnosed with ADD at approximately 7 years old. As I mentioned, I only started using it a little over one year ago, and it has benefited me beyond imagine with things i've struggled with my whole life - all from moderate use. I wish I had access to Adderall in my younger days during elementary school and highschool. I struggled SO horribly with focus and motivation, both on the immediate level (such as during classes and studying) as well as on a large general level (such as focus on overall goals in life in general). I don't even take it every day, and there are some times when I may go a week or more without having to use it. It might not have helped you, but I feel it has helped me immensely, and i'm sure that a lot of other people in the same situation as me would say the same thing.
Do I agree with doctors automatically giving the parents of an ADD diagnosed child things like this and then force the kid to use it? No. The decision to use this to help oneself should be a conscious one made by the person themselves. If that means waiting until the child hits 16 or something before he/she can make their own decision on whether they feel they'd like to try using Adderall/Ritalin/whatever to help them, then so be it. But then we get into this issue of parents and the whole "DON'T TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY KIDS" crap, and i'm not going there.
Just my $0.02 on your comment about it being 'poison'.