Thoughts on EQ? Because i got huge off it

[DTFzombies]

Why do people hate on eq? I can find a lot of posts of people saying it sucks.....its a waste of money.....its not worth it. Oh yea? My first cycle was test prop 100mg/EOD and EQ 400mg/week for 15 weeks and my bench went up 105 pounds....bent over row went up over 100 pounds as well.....and my deadlift? HA! deadlift went up almost 200 pounds, pulling 500 off the floor without straps. I also gained 15 pounds, lost some body fat, and after pct kept almost 85% of my gains. All of this info is true, i shit you not. I still have my workout log book(i always keep one) to show people tell when they don't believe me....i swear i'm going to frame it one day. That cycle is what got me hooked on the gear. So why do people hate on it? Am i just a freak or something? lol Sorry for the rant....i just started typing and couldn't stop. Thoughts anyone? Thank you for reading, STAY STRONG my friends! >=)

[songdog]

And it had nothing to do with the test huh.Not that the test was the most powerful of the 2.So how do you think it was the EQ after all that info?

[fit2bOld]

I think it was the Test, great stuff!

[ddp2727]

I've made no beef about it, I like EQ much more than most on this board. But I must admit the majority of what you just described was test based gains (based solely on my cycle experience).

[-Ender-]

Why do people hate on eq? I can find a lot of posts of people saying it sucks.....its a waste of money.....its not worth it. Oh yea? My first cycle was test prop 100mg/EOD and EQ 400mg/week for 15 weeks and my bench went up 105 pounds....bent over row went up over 100 pounds as well.....and my deadlift? HA! deadlift went up almost 200 pounds, pulling 500 off the floor without straps. I also gained 15 pounds, lost some body fat, and after pct kept almost 85% of my gains. All of this info is true, i shit you not. I still have my workout log book(i always keep one) to show people tell when they don't believe me....i swear i'm going to frame it one day. That cycle is what got me hooked on the gear. So why do people hate on it? Am i just a freak or something? lol Sorry for the rant....i just started typing and couldn't stop. Thoughts anyone? Thank you for reading, STAY STRONG my friends! >=)

I'd say drop the deca and drol from your current planned cycle and run EQ again. Then report back with your results. I'd be curious to see if you see the same gains again.

I did my own experiment with eq awhile back and found nothing to write home about.

[DTFzombies]

I'd say drop the deca and drol from your current planned cycle and run EQ again. Then report back with your results. I'd be curious to see if you see the same gains again.

I did my own experiment with eq awhile back and found nothing to write home about.

I was actually thinking of doing that my man =)

And Because i ran test prop and tren ace for 12 weeks and my results were no where near the prop and eq.

[Sfla80]

I was actually thinking of doing that my man =)

And Because i ran test prop and tren ace for 12 weeks and my results were no where near the prop and eq.

That makes no sense there? Ur gains off of tren where no where near eq?

[DTFzombies]

That makes no sense there? Ur gains off of tren where no where near eq?

Everyone is different

[The Bear 79]

If you do some more digging OP, you will also find several people (including myself) who have run Test. only cycles & then run the same dose of Test. + some Eq. & got the EXACT same results as they did with the Test. only cycle. What does that tell you? It tells you the Eq. did nothing, your results were from the Test.

If you're going to go on a bragging "rant", you should make sure you're armed with impenetrable facts, not inexperienced speculation.

Aside from that......................congrats on your gains big guy...........keep it up.

[DTFzombies]

If you do some more digging OP, you will also find several people (including myself) who have run Test. only cycles & then run the same dose of Test. + some Eq. & got the EXACT same results as they did with the Test. only cycle. What does that tell you? It tells you the Eq. did nothing, your results were from the Test.

If you're going to go on a bragging "rant", you should make sure you're armed with impenetrable facts, not inexperienced speculation.

Aside from that......................congrats on your gains big guy...........keep it up.

The first part of your post angered me....until you congratulated me haha. Sorry about that one. And i dont know why everyone is getting so defensive guys....my "rant" was me telling you guys of my experience and asking you guys about yours. Isnt that what the forum is for guys?

[jimmyinkedup]

Yeah,,whatever works for you man.
Personally EQ isnt high on my list of muscle building steroids.

[DTFzombies]

Yeah,,whatever works for you man.
Personally EQ isnt high on my list of muscle building steroids.

What was your best muscle building cycle in your own experience jimmy?

[Lunk1]

Fact: If you saw better gains from test EQ than test/tren then you did soething wrong!

[juicyj13]

just curious, how much did your bench start out as Zombies?

[Ashop]

Why do people hate on eq? I can find a lot of posts of people saying it sucks.....its a waste of money.....its not worth it. Oh yea? My first cycle was test prop 100mg/EOD and EQ 400mg/week for 15 weeks and my bench went up 105 pounds....bent over row went up over 100 pounds as well.....and my deadlift? HA! deadlift went up almost 200 pounds, pulling 500 off the floor without straps. I also gained 15 pounds, lost some body fat, and after pct kept almost 85% of my gains. All of this info is true, i shit you not. I still have my workout log book(i always keep one) to show people tell when they don't believe me....i swear i'm going to frame it one day. That cycle is what got me hooked on the gear. So why do people hate on it? Am i just a freak or something? lol Sorry for the rant....i just started typing and couldn't stop. Thoughts anyone? Thank you for reading, STAY STRONG my friends! >=)

I've always loved it myself. Strength,,lean gains,,,vascularity,,,and virtuallly side effect free. I like it even more
when stacked with TESTOSTERONE.

[austinite]

As stated, test is where you saw results. EQ is great for squeaky hinges tho.

[Bigshotvictoria]

EQ made me hungry, and since eating isn't a problem for me I didn't need it. Thats all I noticed. Oh, my wallet lost a little weight though...

[The Bear 79]

Gixx once stated (in another thread months ago) after someone told the OP he will gain absolutely nothing on Eq. that "he will gain at least the weight of the oil in the vial"....................I found it amusing then & I still do............

[Armykid93]

Gixx once stated (in another thread months ago) after someone told the OP he will gain absolutely nothing on Eq. that "he will gain at least the weight of the oil in the vial"....................I found it amusing then & I still do............

Lol yeah that definitely sounds like him

[MickeyKnox]

Heres my short story..

Sept 30th 2012 - starting weight, 191lbs (lost weight due to stress - long story dont ask)

Diet is ok but certainly room for improvement.

Test E 125mg E6D
EQ 250mg EOD
AI, hCG.

Dec 14th 209lbs. Approx 10wks.

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The point is, personally i have not experienced any of the negative comments that float around.

However, would i recommend it? Nope. For the simple fact that you have to use too much, therefore it is not cost effective imho. I would rather use several other compounds than use EQ again, or simply run my Test higher.

It was free and i wanted to try it and see what all the fuss was all about. So i can now say without a doubt, it is much better than WD 40, but in a pinch, i'd use it...if it was free.

[GymHero]

Heres my short story..

Sept 30th 2012 - starting weight, 191lbs (lost weight due to stress - long story dont ask)

Diet is ok but certainly room for improvement.

Test E 125mg E6D
EQ 250mg EOD
AI, hCG.

Dec 14th 209lbs. Approx 10wks.


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The point is, personally i have not experienced any of the negative comments that float around.

However, would i recommend it? Nope. For the simple fact that you have to use too much, therefore it is not cost effective imho. I would rather use several other compounds than use EQ again, or simply run my Test higher.

It was free and i wanted to try it and see what all the fuss was all about. So i can now say without a doubt, it is much better than WD 40, but in a pinch, i'd use it...if it was free.

I'm sure your diet was responsible for most of your gains?

[songdog]

I was actually thinking of doing that my man =)

And Because i ran test prop and tren ace for 12 weeks and my results were no where near the prop and eq.

Thats beacuse it was your 1st cycle and you gain the most off your 1st.

[MickeyKnox]

I'm sure your diet was responsible for most of your gains?

Im sure youre wrong.

[The Bear 79]

Im sure youre wrong.

Take note MK, GymHero's post is formatted as a question not an accusation...............

[The Bear 79]

I'm sure your diet was responsible for most of your gains?

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[MickeyKnox]

Take note MK, GymHero's post is formatted as a question not an accusation...............

Take note Mr Bear, my answer is formed as an answer, not a smartass remark.

[measuretwicecutonce]

Sarcasm at its finest.