Major anxiety, any advice appreciated

[Justin332]

Hello,

I'm in the second week of PCT after the following cycle:

Test E wk 1-12 500mg
Tren E wk 1-8 500mg
HCG run 500iu weekly

I"m currently doing Clomid and Nolva at 300/40 the first two days, then 100/20 after that. Right now (TWO WEEKS in) I'm at 50/20 because I thought maybe the clomid was causing the sides based on research here.

IN the past week, I've been worrying excessively and getting major panic attacks. Am I doing too much PCT? Am I not doing enough? Any advice is greatly appreciated becasue this is really eating away at me, and my weight (I haven't eaten much).

[Justin332]

Bump

[OdinsOtherSon]

Man, that 300 of clomid was HIGH. I'm no expert and have no idea if clomid would cause anxiety even at that level but that's the only real oddity that stands out to me. Hopefully we can get a vet to chime in here for you. I hate to hear you are experiencing these panic attacks. Was this your first cycle? What is your age?...not on your profile. You need to keep food in your system for sure and possibly even bump up your fat intake a bit. If you fail to eat now, you're gonna lose any gains you've made. Hang in there bro and keep us updated.

Edit: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16050534#

[Justin332]

I just weighed in at 217. Very frustrating.


I'm 32. This was my first cycle. I actually got the clomid and nolva prescribed to me.

I had panic disorder As a kid, but it hasn't kicked back in until this pct

[MickeyKnox]

Do you feel nervous and restless? If so, i'll bet your anxiety is likely due to the unusually large dose of Clomid. It will pass with time but may take a wk or so given the active life of Clomid is approx 5-6 days.

Current and widely accepted Clomid protocols are typically 75/50/50/50 - as much as 100mg for the first wk if using tabs.

[Justin332]

I'm able to sleep. I'm just very depressed and literally having panic attacks during the day. Obsessing about things I can't control.

[MickeyKnox]

I'm able to sleep. I'm just very depressed and literally having panic attacks during the day. Obsessing about things I can't control.

You'll know better next time.

[Justin332]

Know what Mickey?

[MickeyKnox]

Not to use so much Clomid!? Hello? McFly?

[Justin332]

Not to use so much Clomid!? Hello? McFly?

Lol, well it was two weeks ago that I used 300mg. Was on 100 two days after then 50mg

[shredda]

Practise thinking positive and practise breathing in deep and blowing out slowly. Anxiety is like a wave it gets high but always comes down and can sometimes go up again.

[Justin332]

Is this going to pass after pct??? It's really rough

[OdinsOtherSon]

Did you check out the pub med link I provided? Anxiety is a potential side of Clomifene Citrate and as Mickey said at that extreme dose you're gonna have to give your body time to metabolize it. Half life is ~ 5 days so a 300mg dose is at 150mg after 5 days....another 5 days its at 75mg...another 5 days its at 37.5. See how this is going? At 15 days you still have a dose in your system from the last 300mg dose large enough to be effective. Then you are still dealing with the additional 100mg doses you took after the last 300. So you can do the math on that. Maybe some research before another cycle would be beneficial.

[Justin332]

I appreciate that. I think that explains it. My boufriend is a surgeon so I trusted him and did what he said instead of my normal pct. I've been taking fifty mg of clomid for the past four days so hopefully it will taper off.

[Justin332]

Can I just cut the clomid altogether and run the nolvadex at 40mg restof cycle?

I ran hcg during the cycle.

[Juced_porkchop]

I just weighed in at 217. Very frustrating.


I'm 32. This was my first cycle. I actually got the clomid and nolva prescribed to me.

I had panic disorder As a kid, but it hasn't kicked back in until this pct

Dude i know how much HELL it can FEEL like. but you ARE ok and you WILL recover from PCT.
your hormones are balancing out and that might make you feel a bit off, then you add the worrie of thinking something is wrong and BOOM panic attack.

YOU ARE OK.


I have this issue also when under allot of stress.
to the point i (even recently) dont even want ot take my mutli vitamin out of fear that the extra energy till make me freak out! as silly as this sounds to others it is NOT funny.

I have only been taking 1 multi over my 3 ed, due to this. I had a major breakdown a couple months ago and am only recovering now.

I hadn't had a panic attack in years then BOOM! felt liek i lopst my mind and that alone added to be building fear of losing my sanity and not being able to stop thinking/anxiety (its like telling yourself OK i got to get to sleep... but you never do because you are over thinking it.)
but I KNOW that i was ok and normal a couple months ago and i know I will be the same soon.

just hang in there buddy.
Feel free to PM me.

I found Kava Kava to help me with anxiety (its a root)







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[Juced_porkchop]

Can I just cut the clomid altogether and run the nolvadex at 40mg restof cycle?

I ran hcg during the cycle.

you could man if you think it would make you feel better.

I think 50mg ed of clomid id good enough (if you use it next time) with 20-30mg tamox.

you could do just tamox if you feel it would be better. your hormones will still be leveling out regardless.






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[Juced_porkchop]

I'm able to sleep. I'm just very depressed and literally having panic attacks during the day. Obsessing about things I can't control.

I feel you man










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[Justin332]

I caught my girlfriend flirting with someone on text. Been obsessing about it ever since. Luckily she's out of the country on a trip with her family and will barely be accessible.

The point is, it was rather innocent but it has literally crippled me with anxiety the last few days. I don't want her t come back and me act like a total freak.

[Justin332]

Thanks everyone's for the feedback. I'm probably going to stop the clomid and see where it takes me.

[Juced_porkchop]

I would rec trying kava kava. get the 84% extract paste from: konakavafarm.com
and what do you mean flirting? some one you both know in real life or just some guy you guys never met?

I love this free webcam sex site , but i NEVER gone on and only watch. I would not cheat... just a thought.





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[Justin332]

They met on Facebook. Saw some text messages. Really shouldn't be a big deal.

[MickeyKnox]

They met on Facebook. Saw some text messages. Really shouldn't be a big deal.

Does he live where she is visiting?

[Justin332]

No. And it wasn't really all that bad. Like I said my anxiety is out if control. When she gets back we are spending the next two weekends together.

[Justin332]

I think the clen I've been taking to help maintain gains also has something to do with it. Will be cutting clen and clomid tonight. My balls feel good and I jerked off today so I may be overdoing it with the supplements.

Any thoughts? You guys have been awesome.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I think the clen I've been taking to help maintain gains also has something to do with it. Will be cutting clen and clomid tonight. My balls feel good and I jerked off today so I may be overdoing it with the supplements.

Any thoughts? You guys have been awesome.

I jerked off today

- TMI

Kicking the Clen to the curb could DEFINITELY help.

[MickeyKnox]

No. And it wasn't really all that bad. Like I said my anxiety is out if control. When she gets back we are spending the next two weekends together.

How far away is he? Could she drive to see him from where she is visiting?

[Justin332]

No although there is a layover in Miami where it's possible.

[MickeyKnox]

No although there is a layover in Miami where it's possible.

I knew it.

[OdinsOtherSon]

I knew it.

Easy Mick!! Dude is on edge as it is!! LOL!!

[snowman]

Hello,

I'm in the second week of PCT after the following cycle:

Test E wk 1-12 500mg
Tren E wk 1-8 500mg
HCG run 500iu weekly

I"m currently doing Clomid and Nolva at 300/40 the first two days, then 100/20 after that. Right now (TWO WEEKS in) I'm at 50/20 because I thought maybe the clomid was causing the sides based on research here.

IN the past week, I've been worrying excessively and getting major panic attacks. Am I doing too much PCT? Am I not doing enough? Any advice is greatly appreciated becasue this is really eating away at me, and my weight (I haven't eaten much).

I'm actually surprised, you are only getting anxiety during pct, and did not get it during your cycle, since you used tren E, especially IF you got anxiety in he past... tren will give you anxiety...i live with anxiety for a long time now, and when i used tren, i thought i was going to die with panic attacks... has for the clomid that could do it to, since did a really high dosage, i would still finish the pct but with lower dosage, don't quit it half way threw... you wont die from it, you just need to control it.... are you on any meds for anxiety? i would stop the clen, that also give me anxiety.
Now for the most important question... why the hell are you using tren E for your first cycle?

[Justin332]

Wasn't my first cycle. Was my fourth. I don't feel any anxiety on tren.

I think I'm feeling better now.

[MickeyKnox]

Wasn't my first cycle. Was my fourth. I don't feel any anxiety on tren.

I think I'm feeling better now.

I wonder if your girl saw that dude while she was in Miami..

[snowman]

Wasn't my first cycle. Was my fourth. I don't feel any anxiety on tren.

I think I'm feeling better now.

This is what you said above....
I just weighed in at 217. Very frustrating.


I'm 32. [B]This was my first cycle. I actually got the clomid and nolva prescribed to me.

I had panic disorder As a kid, but it hasn't kicked back in until this pct
[/B]
so is it your first cycle or your fourth?

[snowman]

I wonder if your girl saw that dude while she was in Miami..

trying to give the guy anxiety....lol

[Justin332]

I just weighed in at 217. Very frustrating.

I'm 32. This was my first cycle. I actually got the clomid and nolva prescribed to me.

I had panic disorder As a kid, but it hasn't kicked back in until this pct

I really don't know why I said that. This is like my fourth or fifth cycle. I was probably so anxious I was just typing without thinking.

Anyways, still have a little anxiety but have calmed down a lot. And gf has been texting a lot saying how much she misses me.

[Justin332]

Just a quick update, my anxiety has gotten a bit better since lowering the clomid, but still high at 50mg. Not sure if it's shutdown or the clomid.

With that said, I've done a lot of research on the board and found that torem is far superior to clomid in conjunction with tamox for recovery. I just procured torem and plan on replacing the clomid immediately upon arrival.

I am going to stop the clomid starting today, and just start the torem to finish the PCT when it comes in.

It is just not normal for me to have this much anxiety, and I feel that it's either two things: shutdown or clomid. I"m going to take one variable out and hope for the best.

Will let you know how it goes.

[MickeyKnox]

Good luck and keep us posted!

And hopefully your girl is not still interested in that guy she was flirting with near her layover.

[Justin332]

I think the moral of the story is never, ever look at your gf's phone... it can open up a pandora''s box.

[MickeyKnox]

I think the moral of the story is never, ever look at your gf's phone... it can open up a pandora''s box.

Or it could reveal an affair in the making. Hopefully shes not still turned on by that handsome muscular guy.