Starting GH

[007.]

Well tomorrow is the big day. Got everything lined up. Gonna start at 1iu and work up to 3-4iu, been looking forward to this for a long time. Gonna use Serostim.

Stats 190lbs. 20% fat 5'10 --> Goal 190lbs 10%

[swithuk]

best of luck ..... whats your question ?

[007.]

best of luck ..... whats your question ?

Didn't really have one but if I did. What should be my goal and expectations for this in say 6 months?

[swithuk]

have you run g.h before ? your timetable is certainly on point as it will take 6 months for you to really see good results . ive been running my jins for about 4 months on my current cycle and starting to see results now . alot of benefits are subtle, its a completely different animal to test . are you running anything else with the g.h ? you may want to consider t4 as it amplifies the g.h effects

alot of guys will tell you that you should be running at least 5i.u e.d to see good results

how old are you ?

[007.]

Yes I have run it before. I don't know if I'm going to use t4 or not. Hard to get! I used to have a bunch but lost them. I know t4 helps with fat loss while using it. I used it the first time I ran it but really was not looking for fat loss but now I am so might be a good idea if I can get my hands on some.

[swithuk]

yeah its a good idea . the combination works well on many levels not just fat loss . best way to look at it is it optimizes the g.h . its relatively easy to get hold of though, im surprised you say that
are you going to run anything else with it ?
g.h is a good foundation to build upon

[007.]

Well you used to be able to get 1000 pills for like $60 online. I guess I'm not looking in the right place, I'll just ask my guy if he can get me some. Not running anything else, not looking to get big. Did my cycles when I was younger, want something else this time.

[swithuk]

you still can ..... yeah same as me . im just running g.h as a base (5i.u e.d) . i think i will bump this up to 7 soon . im just taking a long term approach . i may add things later like a low test cycle . but im quite happy with my results so far and thats just been with g.h (t4 i introduced 3 weeks ago )

ive never done Serostim . who makes it ?

[007.]

you still can ..... yeah same as me . im just running g.h as a base (5i.u e.d) . i think i will bump this up to 7 soon . im just taking a long term approach . i may add things later like a low test cycle . but im quite happy with my results so far and thats just been with g.h (t4 i introduced 3 weeks ago )

ive never done Serostim . who makes it ?

EMDSerono

[swithuk]

thanks

[Xtralarg]

So you're hoping to loose 10% bf and maintain the same weight just by using 1-4iu. I think you should get down to an absolute max 15% bf before starting your gh and run it at min 6iu, preferably 8iu. If you're going to be dieting as well then I'd advise a low dose of test to help maintain muscle mass. You need t4 that's no even up for debate, 50-75mcg ed.

If you do the above then I'm sure youll achieve your goal as long as you train hard.

[largerthannormal]

Agreed!! ^^^^^^

[largerthannormal]

Well you used to be able to get 1000 pills for like $60 online. I guess I'm not looking in the right place, I'll just ask my guy if he can get me some. Not running anything else, not looking to get big. Did my cycles when I was younger, want something else this time.

pretty close to price discussion... careful

[largerthannormal]

Also if you can get GH and T4 is tough to get then im lost.......

[big_ron]

Here is an idea.. Save your money.. Fix up your diet and get down to 10%...Sounds crazy right ? :P

[007.]

So you're hoping to loose 10% bf and maintain the same weight just by using 1-4iu. I think you should get down to an absolute max 15% bf before starting your gh and run it at min 6iu, preferably 8iu. If you're going to be dieting as well then I'd advise a low dose of test to help maintain muscle mass. You need t4 that's no even up for debate, 50-75mcg ed.

If you do the above then I'm sure youll achieve your goal as long as you train hard.

Thx XL, I just came back from the gym and did the actual caliper test and I got 14% BF, last night my friend had one of those scales you step on and then hold the attachement in you hand like a holding a bike and that thing said 20%. Are those accurate cause it seems to be a big difference btw the two tests.
Thanks

Edit, sorry I didnt see your comment earlier, I dont want to do test with it cause i'm prone to hairloss, acne and dont want to have to mess with my HTPA anymore. From what I understand GH does not mess with your HTPA in that regard.

[007.]

I just did a search for bf% pics and found a bf% picture thread in the nutrition forum, its a sticky at the top of the page. I would say 14-15% is right on, I dont look like the guy at 20%.

[007.]

Also if you can get GH and T4 is tough to get then im lost.......

I ordered some t4 online, never showed up:/

[007.]

Well today is the big day. Starting off with 1iu, and work my way up like XL said. Ill keep you guys posted on my results. Try go keep a record as the fat falls off!

[Angel of death]

just curious how old are you?

[hellokitty08]

So you're hoping to loose 10% bf and maintain the same weight just by using 1-4iu. I think you should get down to an absolute max 15% bf before starting your gh and run it at min 6iu, preferably 8iu. If you're going to be dieting as well then I'd advise a low dose of test to help maintain muscle mass. You need t4 that's no even up for debate, 50-75mcg ed.

If you do the above then I'm sure youll achieve your goal as long as you train hard.

you seem to know a lot. btw your arms are huge! one of your arm is both my arms and legs lol

[testluva]

I just did a search for bf% pics and found a bf% picture thread in the nutrition forum, its a sticky at the top of the page. I would say 14-15% is right on, I dont look like the guy at 20%.

This will help

[007.]

This will help

Yea that is the one, thanks. So def not 20% like that machine said.