Skip NPP and go straight to Tren?

[Infidel101]

Starting to plan and gear up for my next cycle. I always plan one cycle ahead. Just began PCT from my last cycle. Read through Antomini's epic Tren thread and noticed he mentioned skipping nandrolone and going straight to Tren. My original thought was to run a Prop/NPP cycle to see how I respond to 19 Nor sides and with the NPP being slightly less harsh, figured it would be a decent gauge of how I handle it and make for a good bulk cycle. I was also under the impression that NPP cleared the system way faster than the time mentioned by Antomini. I do get tested but know when usually with decent amount of advanced warning.

So, with all that in mind, is it feasible and responsible to run a Tren cycle opposed to an NPP cycle? Cycle would likely be 300 mg Tren per week and 150 test per week. Not a heavy dose by any means but, trying to be responsible with my first run at Tren. Don't want it to bite me too hard and leave me never wanting to return. Would be running Caber and a light dose Aromasin just to ensure limited E2 levels.

Anyone else skipped straight to Tren without hitting Deca/NPP? Thoughts for or against it? Open and appreciative of all views on this one.

Thanks in advance.

And since I know it will likely be asked:

Stats:
29 yoa
6'3
231 lbs @ 12% BF
This would be my third cycle.
Goal would be a lean bulk

[marcus300]

Stick with your plan and try NPP first before tren, tren is harsher than npp for many user's and also npp is really good when used with a short cycle.

[lovbyts]

Why not jump from a learners drivers permit to driving an Indy race car?
OK it's not quite the same but you get the idea. Honestly Deca/NPP is not that much different and I think it's good to wait until cycle 3 or more before even doing deca/NPP.

I like the idea of 1st cycle doing a low Test cycle. 2nd cycle bump up the test a little and maybe add an oral such as dbol, var or something. 3rd cycle repeat #2 if it all worked good. Add Deca around #4, repeat #5 by bumping the test or Deca and try Tren down the road. No reason to jump into things to quick or you sort of run out of road and start making mistakes by using to much to quick when it's not really needed.

[Gaspaco]

I like the idea of 1st cycle doing a low Test cycle. 2nd cycle bump up the test a little and maybe add an oral such as dbol, var or something. 3rd cycle repeat #2 if it all worked good. Add Deca around #4, repeat #5 by bumping the test or Deca and try Tren down the road. No reason to jump into things to quick or you sort of run out of road and start making mistakes by using to much to quick when it's not really needed.

^^^agree

I would even consider first 3-4 cycles TEST ONLY.

[austinite]

Agree with the above. NPP is great and can do great things if diet is in check.

[auswest]

I've never ran deca, went from test only to test tren, then test/winny, gonna run a test/tren/winny cycle soon don't plan on ever using deca, nor long ester tests,

Prop tren and winny only from now on

[jimmyinkedup]

Stick with your plan and try NPP first before tren, tren is harsher than npp for many user's and also npp is really good when used with a short cycle.

x2. Couldnt agree more.

[redz]

I've still yet to use deca or npp, maybe one day lol.

[OnTheSauce]

I haven't noticed anything from npp but softer erections and more acne. Gimme the Tren...

[Infidel101]

Sounds like a plan.

First cycle was Test E only, second Test Prop and Var. Guess the normal progression would dictate Test/NPP. We shall see how it goes. Appreciate the responses.

[Charger527]

NPP is the awsome use it!

[ironbeck]

i have done tren and deca, ut his time around I figured to give NPP a try, even though it's only been a couple of weeks, I'm missing my tren more and more. i figured since it was NPP I would not have any water weight issuesand so far so good, I'm looking bigger and fuller, but I'm not getting any of the joint relief associated with deca. That being said , it's the only reason I choose to run NPP over tren, I have already considered switching to tren for the remainder of cycle, but am trying to be patient to see benefits from the Npp. I have noticed a mild decrease in libido, as compared to tren i have no issues what so ever.

[Infidel101]

Will a mild dose of Caber be enough to defeat any ED issues? It's expensive but, I like to keep my man parts in full working order and I'd like to avoid any progesterone sides. I know it's good to use with tren but, seeing how both are 19nor I would assume it would be safe to say Caber should help? I plan to run at least 150 mg Prop EOD with the NPP. Will run my standard AI with this cycle as well. Have never had any sides/gyno issues outside of oily skin and slight body hair increase... would like to keep it that way.