New Female Needing Help!

[Tron3219]

Let me try to think of some foods that I can work into that. Did you happen to see what I ate yesterday that I posted in my first post? Girly has me thinking that maybe I am eating the right foods at the wrong times, or maybe the wrong foods period. Whatever I do, I want to feel like I am not hungry. So can you guys tell me some foods that will help me feel full longer? Maybe thats the trick, I dont know.

Also, to Tron. If my body fat is still high, why would you up my calories for the diet? If I am burning so many calories at my current diet, I would think that my body fat would decrease. Its all so confusing to me.

When eating foods, I dont know what I need to eat at certain times, such as for breakfast. I thought 1/2 cup of oats with a half scoop of protien dumped in would be good. And My 10 am banana, I thought would also be ok. But it is not. I work at a hospital and only have certain times I can stop to eat. Thats why I eat the banana because I can reach into my desk and grab it and eat it quickly. I do get an hour lunch. I also keep almonds in my desk. I need to know when to eat certain foods and what I can eat.

Because I feel like that amount of cardio plus weight training is a bit excessive. The amount of calories u take in minus the amount of calories burned can't be too low otherwise ur body has a tendency to not burn fat as a primary source of energy. There needs to be a balance. This is from experimentation with my wife. And that's how I did her diet. At first she was doing a lot of cardio, and not as intense as yours, I raised her calories slighting about her tdee (from the lbmx15 that 405 provided) and she started burning fat quickly. Then when she got into a more even routine of weighs and cardio I dropped it slightly below her tdee, she's still losing fat, but not near as fast and is gaining muscle mass now. Now I'm messing with her carb/fat split, keeping her protein at about 1.25g/lb

-TroN-

[Provita]

Because I feel like that amount of cardio plus weight training is a bit excessive. The amount of calories u take in minus the amount of calories burned can't be too low otherwise ur body has a tendency to not burn fat as a primary source of energy. There needs to be a balance. This is from experimentation with my wife. And that's how I did her diet. At first she was doing a lot of cardio, and not as intense as yours, I raised her calories slighting about her tdee (from the lbmx15 that 405 provided) and she started burning fat quickly. Then when she got into a more even routine of weighs and cardio I dropped it slightly below her tdee, she's still losing fat, but not near as fast and is gaining muscle mass now. Now I'm messing with her carb/fat split, keeping her protein at about 1.25g/lb

-TroN-

Apologies for chipping in on this conversation :-). But I want too...

This what tron is mentioning about excessive training and low cals is something I have observed with the people around me, both men and women. They work their butts of and eat very little, never cheat and still do not loose that fat.

I myself was there. Was doing 8-10 spinning classes in 5 days plus lifting. Bf% @14%. Started doing more balanced training, only 1 spin class per week :-( and good lifting days and actually upped my caloric intake bf% @11.7%. Now I'm already @10%bf, but that was with a small dose of fat burners for 3 weeks.

I think, once your body is deprived of energy, and energy expenditure remains high, it goes into that starvation mode. It then holds on to anything it can (and stores it as fat).

But i really think this model is only for very active people.

Thats my experience...

[--->>405<<---]

hey guys i agree with both of u.. tron and provita.. theres only one way to know and thats to decide and run the diet. personally i hadnt gotten to the cardio yet.

id suggest 5-6days per week cardio split into some moderate and intervals.. 45mins on average..

lifting 3-4days per week IMO would be sufficient..

tron no probs dude i anticipated a bit of disagreement/questioning and encourage it! no offense taken and u may well be right based on the amount of cardio she is currently doing. personally when advising people i tend to advise what i think they should do and not really try to work with what theyre currently doing as it takes confusion out of the equation of where to start with my advice and where to stop with some of their practices!

id also like to note i tend to shy away from giving advice to females typically. tron u may be on to something as ur wife is proof! everyone is different though and 2000+cals cutting for a female does seem high to me.

[Lady Warmouth]

hey guys i agree with both of u.. tron and provita.. theres only one way to know and thats to decide and run the diet. personally i hadnt gotten to the cardio yet.

id suggest 5-6days per week cardio split into some moderate and intervals.. 45mins on average..

lifting 3-4days per week IMO would be sufficient..

tron no probs dude i anticipated a bit of disagreement/questioning and encourage it! no offense taken and u may well be right based on the amount of cardio she is currently doing. personally when advising people i tend to advise what i think they should do and not really try to work with what theyre currently doing as it takes confusion out of the equation of where to start with my advice and where to stop with some of their practices!

id also like to note i tend to shy away from giving advice to females typically. tron u may be on to something as ur wife is proof! everyone is different though and 2000+cals cutting for a female does seem high to me.

I would like to have your help too, regardless of being a woman! I need all of the advice I can get. And Provita did make a valid point of me possibly burning more calories than I am taking inand my body is holding on to the fat. I absolutely kill cardio! All of this is very informative and I didnt expect it all. I see why this site is addictive to warmouth.

[Tron3219]

hey guys i agree with both of u.. tron and provita.. theres only one way to know and thats to decide and run the diet. personally i hadnt gotten to the cardio yet.

id suggest 5-6days per week cardio split into some moderate and intervals.. 45mins on average..

lifting 3-4days per week IMO would be sufficient..

tron no probs dude i anticipated a bit of disagreement/questioning and encourage it! no offense taken and u may well be right based on the amount of cardio she is currently doing. personally when advising people i tend to advise what i think they should do and not really try to work with what theyre currently doing as it takes confusion out of the equation of where to start with my advice and where to stop with some of their practices!

id also like to note i tend to shy away from giving advice to females typically. tron u may be on to something as ur wife is proof! everyone is different though and 2000+cals cutting for a female does seem high to me.

Idk if ur lazy ass(joking) read it or not, but I did recommend her to dial the cardio back and level it out to a more well rounded routine, but some ppl run, we pick things up and out them down! Ultimately there is a way to get where u wanna be without sacrificing what u love to do! I just got the sense she didn't particularly want to give up the cardio. So I adjusted. Remember, were here to help them, not make it easier on us! now if they are doing something completely ridiculous, then yeah, show them the error and try to talk them out of it. All I see is her having a very well conditioned heart. But eventually as they become leaner and start seeing muscle definition there focus may shift (my wife is a prime example).

But I too have a difficult time helping females as their bodies are waaaay more finicky then a mans. And normally I wouldn't recommend that many cals, but normal ppl don't do 100 hours of spinning :P. and my number may b high because I don't KNOW how many cals she burns in spin class and lifting, but I def think she should increase cals.

Mrs. Warmouth, this is where u come in, we need the most accurate calculation of calories burned in a spin class and lifting weights, separately.

-TroN-