Pre-planning summer cycle

[gymsoldier]

Age: 26
Weight: 172lbs
BF%: 10%

Cycle experience:

10week Test-E @ 500mg/wk
8week Test-Prop @ 350/wk and Tren Ace @ 262.5mg/wk

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This summer I'm either going to run Test-P @ 350mg/wk and NPP @ 350mg/wk, or, Test-Prop @ 350/wk and Tren Ace @ 262.5mg/wk for 8 weeks.

With diet dialled in, which cycle will yield greater results and reduced muscle loss?

Also, I've used Adex as an AI in the past @ 0.25mg EOD, but still got a small amount of gyno on cycle which went during PCT.
Due to myself being very estrogen sensitive, would I be better off using Adex @ 0.25mg ED, or Aromasin @ 12.5mg ED?

[Euroholic]

When using a 19nor you need caber or prami and hcg..

[Euroholic]

Prolactin can cause gyno

[Euroholic]

Im very estro sensitive i have to use 0.5mg a day of arimidex

[Euroholic]

And its to hard to say what will guve better results whos to no what compound responds well to your body or how hard you train etc etc. That being said tren is ment to be king

[gymsoldier]

I used Caber 0.25mg EOD. And used HCG 250IU E3D.

[RB3232]

do 50 mg prop EOD and bump your tren up to 125-150 mg EOD, minimal to no bloat and serious gains through tren

[warmouth]

do 50 mg prop EOD and bump your tren up to 125-150 mg EOD, minimal to no bloat and serious gains through tren

Sounds good, but I'd drop the tren too 100mgs eod at first to assess the sides. Can always bump the ace.

[gymsoldier]

do 50 mg prop EOD and bump your tren up to 125-150 mg EOD, minimal to no bloat and serious gains through tren

So looks like the consensus is that Tren would be better for reduced muscle loss during cutting?

[calstate23]

So looks like the consensus is that Tren would be better for reduced muscle loss during cutting?

You will stay hard and the fact you can get away with eating less then perfect and still stay lean...

I would do test, tren and throw is mast

[gymsoldier]

You will stay hard and the fact you can get away with eating less then perfect and still stay lean...

I would do test, tren and throw is mast

What dose would you run Mast at? And, for how long?

[calstate23]

What dose would you run Mast at? And, for how long?

Tren A 350 mg a week
Test P 200 mg a week
Mast P 200 mg a week

You could start there....Maybe bump up the tren as you go along

[Granovich]

Tren A 350 mg a week
Test P 200 mg a week
Mast P 200 mg a week

You could start there....Maybe bump up the tren as you go along

isnt that very low for masteron prop ?
i would say 100-150 mg EOD at least...

[calstate23]

isnt that very low for masteron prop ?
i would say 100-150 mg EOD at least...

Tren doing the work and his low dose test....Don't want to crush estro to low with the mast

[Granovich]

Tren doing the work and his low dose test....Don't want to crush estro to low with the mast

True he will use tren. im thinking of Masteron to help with fat loss and hardening muscle in addition to Testosterone Propinate. didnt notice the Tren , my bad
as for Estrogen; Masteron isnt strong as an AI . it shouldnt crush his E2
but maybe if added to high dose of Aromaisn then yes it will crush it

[calstate23]

True he will use tren. im thinking of Masteron to help with fat loss and hardening muscle in addition to Testosterone Propinate. didnt notice the Tren , my bad
as for Estrogen; Masteron isnt strong as an AI . it shouldnt crush his E2
but maybe if added to high dose of Aromaisn then yes it will crush it

Exacto mundo...What I was thinkin

[calstate23]

BUT you don't lean and huge until you throw in legit gh......

THEN you grow....LEAN

[ReverendNewman]

Age: 26
Weight: 172lbs
BF%: 10%

Cycle experience:

10week Test-E @ 500mg/wk
8week Test-Prop @ 350/wk and Tren Ace @ 262.5mg/wk

------------

This summer I'm either going to run Test-P @ 350mg/wk and NPP @ 350mg/wk, or, Test-Prop @ 350/wk and Tren Ace @ 262.5mg/wk for 8 weeks.

With diet dialled in, which cycle will yield greater results and reduced muscle loss?

Also, I've used Adex as an AI in the past @ 0.25mg EOD, but still got a small amount of gyno on cycle which went during PCT.
Due to myself being very estrogen sensitive, would I be better off using Adex @ 0.25mg ED, or Aromasin @ 12.5mg ED?

Toss in some Masteron in there and you'll be G2G !!!

[gymsoldier]

BUT you don't lean and huge until you throw in legit gh......

THEN you grow....LEAN

I plan on running 2-4IU ED hopefully, Ive already been using GHRP2/Mod GRF(1-29) for a couple of weeks now.

[gymsoldier]

I plan on running 2-4IU ED hopefully, Ive already been using GHRP2/Mod GRF(1-29) for a couple of weeks now.

BUMP.

What's the best way to run 4IU HGH ED?

1: 4IU in the morning
2: 4IU before bed
3: 4IU PWO
4: 2IU morning & 2IU before bed

[calstate23]

BUMP.

What's the best way to run 4IU HGH ED?

1: 4IU in the morning
2: 4IU before bed
3: 4IU PWO
4: 2IU morning & 2IU before bed

You might want to start off a little lower if it's your first time and you have legit pharm grade gh to see how the sides are...

2 iu in morning and 2 iu afternoon or bed would be best...

You might even consider running it by itself for a couple months to get you runnin on all gears and then add in the cycle while continuing to run gh throughout...You'll just progress that much faster...

You runnin generics or do you have pharm?

[gymsoldier]

You runnin generics or do you have pharm?

I'll be using Ansomone.

[gymsoldier]

Update:


Cycle starting June 20th.

Weeks 1-10
Test-Prop 350mg/week
Tren-Ace 350mg/week
Clen/ECA, 2 weeks on/off

Weeks 2-9
Mast-Prop 350mg/week

Labs:
Farmak Test-Prop (50mg/ml)
ISis Tren-Ace (100mg/ml)
Alpha-Pharma Mast-Prop (100mg/ml)

Ancillaries - EOD:
Adex 0.5mg
Caber 0.25mg
HCG 150IU

[gymsoldier]

Will Adex @ 0.5mg EOD crush my E2 when using Mast-Prop @ 350mg/week? I'm very estrogen sensitive. Any small gyno I get on cycle always disappears by week three of PCT.

[Tron3219]

Will Adex @ 0.5mg ED crush my E2 when using Mast-Prop @ 350mg/week? I'm very estrogen sensitive. Any small gyno I get on cycle always disappears by week three of PCT.

Maybe not at first, but I'd venture to say yes. Considering that's what I was taking on a gram of test...I'd go with normal dosage of .25mg eod. Plus mast will help too

[gymsoldier]

Sorry that was a typo I made, same question but EOD.