Why hate on newbies?

[pressure]

I'm a student at the moment, so the budget is strict, I'm gaining weight but also trying to get to 10-12% bf, it about 15% or a little higher now I guess.
I don't know if I will gain or lose more bf over the next months, so I'll just trim a little until end of next week.

Well the trainer haven't exactly told me to gain or lose weight, that's just the way I hear what's coming out of his mouth.

[lovbyts]

Its funny how everytime a newbie comes asking this same question the more he talks and more he tries to convince us HE is different he proves our point all the more.

[auswest]

I'm a student at the moment, so the budget is strict, I'm gaining weight but also trying to get to 10-12% bf, it about 15% or a little higher now I guess.
I don't know if I will gain or lose more bf over the next months, so I'll just trim a little until end of next week.

Well the trainer haven't exactly told me to gain or lose weight, that's just the way I hear what's coming out of his mouth.

So you're trying to loose fat but trying to gain weight and wondering why you're not gaining.....and you do not even know if your "trainer "wants you to gain or loose weight...
You are one confused boy..

You may want to do a bit of research on the principles of weight gain and weight loss, and actually speak to your "trainer" and pick a goal...

Lol at the attitude of its all to hard ill just use steroids and it will all just fall into place and ill have one of those physiques...clueless

[RajaSultan]

all of you guys talking here don't know the real reason why all of a sudden in the past 2 years all young guys want to roid ... its well we were all inspired by zyzz and we think that if he had no problems with his dick and he got alot more handsome and alot more muscle then any of us in 3 years then why shouldn't we ... i already learned the dangers and i m not considering but just telling here the main reason why all us teens are here

[Flagg]

Zyzz fans should be banned from this site.

That guy is about the WORST THING to happen to bodybuilding.

"Yeah we all want to be like Zyzz....oh, he died two years later from his coke fueled lifestyle?"

Yeah, good one.

[marcus300]

I'm not going to sugar coat any advice here

Don't use steroids at your level it will be one of the biggest mistakes you could do. You also risking serious damage to your own testosterone levels which could cause you awful side effects which you really don't want.

You also need to start going to a gym and learn how to train properly, you may think you know how to train but trust me you don't,

You also need to learn how to eat correctly to suit your goals because the way your eating now your not going to do much with regards to gains or achieving any goals,

You could do so much at your age if you learn the correct way and build a solid base from natural training,

best of luck and don't disregard the above advice

[Bigherm21]

Also, newbs tend to come on here and tell us how they plan on running their first cycle as though they know it all or because their dealer told them what they should run. On top of this, when they get told info that is being brought up for their safety, we get shit on a ton for trying to help.

This is exactly how I'd put it. Op is not that we hate, it just when we try to help younger kids, they tend to get real defensive and most times pretty rude. All we are trying to do is look out for you. Most of the time it's not what you want to hear. Too many kids replace good nutrition, and training for aas. It doesn't work like that and you won't get anywhere fast. Also don't tell us your diet is good cause its not. Also I'm not trying to hate or be a dick cause we all started where you are but I can tell by your avi you're not ready for gear. You got to have a good frame to work off of before you start.

[Bigherm21]

Also, newbs tend to come on here and tell us how they plan on running their first cycle as though they know it all or because their dealer told them what they should run. On top of this, when they get told info that is being brought up for their safety, we get shit on a ton for trying to help.

all of you guys talking here don't know the real reason why all of a sudden in the past 2 years all young guys want to roid ... its well we were all inspired by zyzz and we think that if he had no problems with his dick and he got alot more handsome and alot more muscle then any of us in 3 years then why shouldn't we ... i already learned the dangers and i m not considering but just telling here the main reason why all us teens are here

oh yeah bro everyone wants to be like him? Oh yeah dude did mad coke with prob crazy aas cycles. Oh yeah dudes dead. Just łike that gay pornstar dude who just did the same thing. He was taking like a gram of tren, a gram of test, dbol, gh, and blew coke and did e everyday. Hmm I wonder why his heart stopped.

It's ****s like these two that the media has a field day with. Idiots like these two that make aas look so bad. I'm not saying aas is not bad, but if done correctly you can live healthy.

So let us know how wanting to be like Zyzz works for you.

[Hazard]

all of you guys talking here don't know the real reason why all of a sudden in the past 2 years all young guys want to roid ... its well we were all inspired by zyzz and we think that if he had no problems with his dick and he got alot more handsome and alot more muscle then any of us in 3 years then why shouldn't we ... i already learned the dangers and i m not considering but just telling here the main reason why all us teens are here

You're shitting me right?

I got into this sport for myself. I doit because I love it. I didn't follow anyone's path..... I created my own damn path.

This is further proof that all these kids want is pvssy. There's no motivation for bodybuilding or lifting. I'm done trying to stop them from making mistakes. I'll offer advice to those who deserve it. The rest can fvck up their endocrine system and cry about it later.

[Hazard]

all of you guys talking here don't know the real reason why all of a sudden in the past 2 years all young guys want to roid ... its well we were all inspired by zyzz and we think that if he had no problems with his dick and he got alot more handsome and alot more muscle then any of us in 3 years then why shouldn't we ... i already learned the dangers and i m not considering but just telling here the main reason why all us teens are here

For the record..... Steroids won't improve the social awkwardness or the "lack of game" you have. They also don't make you a good looking guy. If you aren't born with it...... A rock hard body won't make your face pretty.

~Haz~

[RajaSultan]

oh yeah bro everyone wants to be like him? Oh yeah dude did mad coke with prob crazy aas cycles. Oh yeah dudes dead. Just łike that gay pornstar dude who just did the same thing. He was taking like a gram of tren, a gram of test, dbol, gh, and blew coke and did e everyday. Hmm I wonder why his heart stopped.

It's ****s like these two that the media has a field day with. Idiots like these two that make aas look so bad. I'm not saying aas is not bad, but if done correctly you can live healthy.

So let us know how wanting to be like Zyzz works for you.

that's not what i meant .. it's his ugly face and body that he started with and ended up with jaw dropping face and body .. that's why kids are inspired dude ... no hate tho and chill out

You're shitting me right?

I got into this sport for myself. I doit because I love it. I didn't follow anyone's path..... I created my own damn path.

This is further proof that all these kids want is pvssy. There's no motivation for bodybuilding or lifting. I'm done trying to stop them from making mistakes. I'll offer advice to those who deserve it. The rest can fvck up their endocrine system and cry about it later.

i m talking about all the kids who started lifting because they want to be zyzz ... i lifted even before i knew zyzz but was chit at it .. diet and training suked no gains ... i wanted to roid even before i knew about him .. but after knowing about his life i wanted to roid even more but now after learning about the dangers of it i m not going to use them until 21/25 ... i learned about dieting and training cuz of him if zyzz was never here not many kids would be going to gym's today (*1990's kids*)
once again i wasn't talking about you

For the record..... Steroids won't improve the social awkwardness or the "lack of game" you have. They also don't make you a good looking guy. If you aren't born with it...... A rock hard body won't make your face pretty.

~Haz~

*HGH*

[Lunk1]

i m talking about all the kids who started lifting because they want to be zyzz ... i lifted even before i knew zyzz but was chit at it .. diet and training suked no gains ... i wanted to roid even before i knew about him .. but after knowing about his life i wanted to roid even more but now after learning about the dangers of it i m not going to use them until 21/25 ... i learned about dieting and training cuz of him if zyzz was never here not many kids would be going to gym's today (*1990's kids*)
once again i wasn't talking about you

Good...then I wouldnt have to wait for the squat rack while they finish curling!

[RajaSultan]

Good...then I wouldnt have to wait for the squat rack while they finish curling![/QUOTE]

LOL xD

[Knockout_Power]

Justin Beiber gets more Pu$$y than any man in the universe... just be bulimic, then theres nothing to inject

[RajaSultan]

Justin Beiber gets more Pu$$y than any man in the universe... just be bulimic, then theres nothing to inject

fame + a lot of luck and also a pretty boy face lol

[Back In Black]

fame + a lot of luck and also a pretty boy face lol

We really need to introduce sholva and DSM to you by the sound of it.

[RajaSultan]

We really need to introduce sholva and DSM to you by the sound of it.

what's a sholva and DSM?

[Back In Black]

what's a sholva and DSM?

They are members that, like you, have an appreciation for pretty boys

[RajaSultan]

They are members that, like you, have an appreciation for pretty boys

lol still don't get it :s .... too confusing ... and if ur tryna say i m a homo then i m not ...

[lovbyts]

We really need to introduce sholva and DSM to you by the sound of it.

what's a sholva and DSM?

How is it he has been here since October and hasnt meet DSM or Sholva????

[Back In Black]

How is it he has been here since October and hasnt meet DSM or Sholva????

Maybe they aren't pretty enough for him, lol

[lovbyts]

Maybe they aren't pretty enough for him, lol

That cant be true. Ive hears some or are Hetro members even think they are pretty....

[RajaSultan]

Oo DSM? that guy with the homo guy's kissing each other and has posted the most in zyzz threads?? i hate looking at that avi like i said i m not a homo just a mirer ... just like you guys look up to arnold or any bodybuilder just like that us kids look up to zyzz

[kronik420]

Oo DSM? that guy with the homo guy's kissing each other and has posted the most in zyzz threads?? i hate looking at that avi like i said i m not a homo just a mirer ... just like you guys look up to arnold or any bodybuilder just like that us kids look up to zyzz

zizz iz dead, if you were looking at him, you'd be looking down....

[Flagg]

Oo DSM? that guy with the homo guy's kissing each other and has posted the most in zyzz threads?? i hate looking at that avi like i said i m not a homo just a mirer ... just like you guys look up to arnold or any bodybuilder just like that us kids look up to zyzz

Zyzz will never, EVER be anywhere near Arnolds level.

[Honkey_Kong]

Have you thought about joining a gym so you can exercise your ENTIRE body?

i think 24 hour is only $30/mo

24 hr has a deal with their sport clubs if you buy it at costco, it's $350 for 2 years. That comes out to like $14 a month if you buy it. If I were him, I'd save up a couple paycheques and buy it.

http://www.costco.com/24-Hour-Fitnes....11753116.html

[RajaSultan]

Zyzz will never, EVER be anywhere near Arnolds level.

arny = best big muscles

zyzz = best muscle genetics (i don't see anyone with those kinds of abs)

[panntastic]

arny = best big muscles

Zyzz all time hall of game ass hat rent boy drug abusing waster

Fixed that right up for you

[Flagg]

arny = best big muscles

zyzz = best muscle genetics (i don't see anyone with those kinds of abs)

Arnold had far, FAR supeior genetics to Zyzz as do most por body builders today and in fact, many members on this board. This thread isn't about Zyzz, it's about trying to steer a new member in the right direction, something YOU are not doing.

[Knockout_Power]

Oo DSM? that guy with the homo guy's kissing each other and has posted the most in zyzz threads?? i hate looking at that avi like i said i m not a homo just a mirer ... just like you guys look up to arnold or any bodybuilder just like that us kids look up to zyzz

wow, Jizz and Arnold in the same sentence... now I know the world has gone to shit

[panntastic]

wow, Jizz and Arnold in the same sentence... now I know the world has gone to shit

You mentioning jizz all is normal again

[crazy mike]

this too... if you dont have a good enough base, you will damage your joints with the sudden increase in strength. Lots of younger guys have serious shoulder problems cause they hurt their rotator lifting too heavy too fast. Go into the Q&A section. Tons of issues with this

I will tell you the joints and the tendons will be stress to the max before maturity and then will plague you all your life. ....crazy mike

[usmc0317]

Knockout, question for you, you look like you know what you are talking about. Im going to go about this by remaining as humble as possible, because I am very green when it comes to aas. About three years ago, I started my only cycle to date, 6 week of cypinate. Haven't had a cycle since. I am/try to be big on running and cardio never sought or desired to put on a lot of mass by heavy lifting. While in the Marine Corp, I was shot in my lower back. Since, I have been unable to do the amount of cardio I did before the injury. I'm 6'1 225 right now, looking to cut about twenty pounds and I need help doing so since I'm not able to run like I used to. I am about to start a cycle of test prop, mast, and tren, However, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you or, anyone may be able to give as a way to cut and define, to go along with a diet. Thanks guys

[m_donnelly]

I'm a new member on this site but not new to the AAS. The advice you're being given is sound; you risk severely screwing up your endocrine system running gear if you're at a young age. It doesn't take much for a cycle to go south and that could have detrimental, borderline irreversible effects.

[MickeyKnox]

Knockout, question for you, you look like you know what you are talking about. Im going to go about this by remaining as humble as possible, because I am very green when it comes to aas. About three years ago, I started my only cycle to date, 6 week of cypinate. Haven't had a cycle since. I am/try to be big on running and cardio never sought or desired to put on a lot of mass by heavy lifting. While in the Marine Corp, I was shot in my lower back. Since, I have been unable to do the amount of cardio I did before the injury. I'm 6'1 225 right now, looking to cut about twenty pounds and I need help doing so since I'm not able to run like I used to. I am about to start a cycle of test prop, mast, and tren, However, I would greatly appreciate any recommendations you or, anyone may be able to give as a way to cut and define, to go along with a diet. Thanks guys

Please start a new thread for yourself. Thats the best way to receive sound advice. KP will find you there and offer his advice.

Welcome and thank you for your service. Im very sorry to hear about your injury.

[usmc0317]

Will do! Thank you is not necessary, but it is very much appreciated.

[Shol'va]

For the record..... Steroids won't improve the social awkwardness or the "lack of game" you have. They also don't make you a good looking guy. If you aren't born with it...... A rock hard body won't make your face pretty.

~Haz~

AMEN Brother Haz!

[Shol'va]

Rumor has it that taking steroids at too young of an age can cause you to go GAY! I took them at 16 but they didn't effect me any. jk

[Tron3219]

Rumor has it that taking steroids at too young of an age can cause you to go GAY! I took them at 16 but they didn't effect me any. jk

Haha

-TroN-

[MickeyKnox]

Rumor has it that taking steroids at too young of an age can cause you to go GAY! I took them at 16 but they didn't effect me any. jk

Damn good thing i waited until later in life.